Blue Hors Romanov, Edward Gal Olympic A-Team

See Eurodressage http://www.eurodressage.com/equestrian/2012/06/14/edward-gals-undercover-and-romanov-added-dutch-olympic-team

I have a super nice colt on the ground by Romanov…:slight_smile: For those who commented that Romanov ‘drags his hind legs’ what do you say now that he is good enough for one of the major dressage teams ever? I say he is a major important stallion. His continued training has added polish his already very good performances. Comments?

I’ve bought Romanov semen for my Sir Donnerhall/Weltmeyer filly in a few years. Wanted it in the tank for later on. I love him. Yay for Edward!!! That’s my only comment, lol!

Yayyyyy!! I’m so happy to hear this! I’ve had 4 Romanov’s and have another on the way. They are super horses!

I am kind of on the fence with this stallion. I love the looks of him, he is stunningly beautiful, no doubt. I am not super crazy about the hind end… both conformational and biomechanical wise though clearly he is talented with good rideability. Any recent videos of him? I like him best with Gal, that much I know.

What kind of mare do you think he needs? What does he consistently produce…or does he? I see some of them I really like…some not so much. I have semen and actually thought to use it on my blood type Rosentau mare who always produces good type and excellent hind ends. I need a to bring a better canter (more expression with the front legs).

Just my .02 . . . I think Romanov improves the trot, the elasticity, the type and especially the front end - neck, shoulder, etc. I would use him on a mare that has a good hind end and a good canter and walk. I don’t think Romanov will give you that particularly higher knee action in the canter. I do think he improves the shoulder angle though.

I think he also adds height, length of leg and can improve uphill balance.

I love the stallion and like I said before, I am always giving his offspring a 2nd look.

I so agree with Kim’s assessment. I have used Romanov twice, on 1/2 sisters who both inherited the substantial, functional hind end of their Eiger/Wenzel dam.
I have loved both foals. The Romanov/Contendro/Eiger/Wenzel was a very feminine type, very elastic, and I believe is close to 17 h - a gain of 4" - mostly legs, on her dam. Light -footed and elegant (Champion Foal of about 23 at her inspection)
This year’s Romanov colt from Autocrat/Eiger/Wenzel dam is one of the nicest foals I have bred, International quality I think… Beautiful shoulder/front end / topline; perfect long legs, and a great, very functional backend. His conformation is supported by the way he moves.
Both foals confident and brave.
So, I am a big fan.

LOL. I would still say he drags his hind legs. He is a nice stallion and no horse is perfect.

Plenty of top dressage horses have issues nobody would purposely try to reproduce but they still get the job done just fine. Rideabilty and good mind are important.

I’d love to see current videos. The last I saw you could tell EG was working on improving the hind end. It’s one of my big pet peeves, which would make me not want to breed with him, but he has a lot going for him. I look forward to seeing how much it improves to get an idea of how much is nature and how much is nurture.

Old classical trainer quote

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I’d love to see current videos. The last I saw you could tell EG was working on improving the hind end. It’s one of my big pet peeves, which would make me not want to breed with him, but he has a lot going for him. I look forward to seeing how much it improves to get an idea of how much is nature and how much is nurture.[/QUOTE]

“Jumpers are born, dressage horses are made”. In the case of Romanov he was makable!!!..lots of breeders out there are breeding to young stallions that WILL NOT BE MADE EVER…They will fail for one reason or another. Soundness, not quick enough to do the one tempis, too quick to do them, can’t piaffe, cant piaffe evenly, cannot do the transtions, cannot do straight flying changes, too lazy, too hot, mentally cannot take the pressure and drilling…and on and on. I have trained and ridden 2 FEI horses, ridden and reschooled one Grand Prix horse as well as many, many others just lower levels or other disciplines so I speak as a retired rider, teacher/trainer not just a breeder.

There is a huge, HUGE difference between potential and accomplishment at Grand Prix. HUGE!!! Every breeding director in the world says so.

^^^^^ This!

He’s a proven international GP stallion so has proved his soundness and willingness to work and his ability to cope with travelling, staying away from home and competing without colicing from stress.

He has enough sit and strength for the piaffe, passage and pirouettes and enough quickness for the one tempis. You do not know if a horse has these abilities until you get there.

I’d use a stallion like Romanov for sure if I had a mare who suited him (in my case one that could take frozen!)

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I am kind of on the fence with this stallion. I love the looks of him, he is stunningly beautiful, no doubt. I am not super crazy about the hind end… both conformational and biomechanical wise though clearly he is talented with good rideability. Any recent videos of him? I like him best with Gal, that much I know.

What kind of mare do you think he needs? What does he consistently produce…or does he? I see some of them I really like…some not so much. I have semen and actually thought to use it on my blood type Rosentau mare who always produces good type and excellent hind ends. I need a to bring a better canter (more expression with the front legs).[/QUOTE]

I’ve seen and ridden a few Romanov’s and he’s a stallion I really like.

Here is a video from April; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPBsV9t7ZLs

I agree with your thought on his hind end. That’s a thing to really consider before breeding to him. We used him on a Weltmeyer mare with a fantastic hind leg.

I feel he adds height, length of leg and light and uphill movement. Most of all the offspring I’ve met have had a fantastic rideability and temperament. They’re often not very flashy as foals though, which is also something to consider if you are looking to sell early.

I have a month old Romanov filly, and I can say she has the nicest temperament of any foal I have ever bred, and is the leggiest. I love her to pieces, and would breed back to him in a heartbeat.

I’m thrilled to see Romanov make the Olympic team short list. I think Gal has clearly improved Romanov’s passage/piaffe.

.lots of breeders out there are breeding to young stallions that WILL NOT BE MADE EVER…They will fail for one reason or another. Soundness, not quick enough to do the one tempis, too quick to do them, can’t piaffe, cant piaffe evenly, cannot do the transtions, cannot do straight flying changes, too lazy, too hot, mentally cannot take the pressure and drilling…and on and on

Yes, you are right…how many horses bred for this sport are ever born with what it takes to not only make it to GP but to become a 70 percent plus GP horse.

I would love to see pics of everyone’s BHR foals!

I decided to go for it and bred my Rosentau/Arkansas/Akzent II mare to him early Sat am (though my timing wasn’t perfect :frowning: ) . Will be line bred on Akzent II and Rubinstein…

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.lots of breeders out there are breeding to young stallions that WILL NOT BE MADE EVER…They will fail for one reason or another. Soundness, not quick enough to do the one tempis, too quick to do them, can’t piaffe, cant piaffe evenly, cannot do the transtions, cannot do straight flying changes, too lazy, too hot, mentally cannot take the pressure and drilling…and on and on

Yes, you are right…how many horses bred for this sport are ever born with what it takes to not only make it to GP but to become a 70 percent plus GP horse.

I would love to see pics of everyone’s BHR foals!

I decided to go for it and bred my Rosentau/Arkansas/Akzent II mare to him early Sat am (though my timing wasn’t perfect :frowning: ) . Will be line bred on Akzent II and Rubinstein…[/QUOTE]

Good luck! I hope it goes well.

Our website is undergoing som construction work so I apologise in advance but there are some pictures of out colt here; http://www.stallfredrikshill.se/Ridges-Larsen-eng

His dam is by Weltmeyer/Glücksstern/Grande (full sister to White Star)

How close is your Rubinstein linebreeding? I’ve been afraid to do that. Are there many horses line bred to Rubinstein?

Out of curiosity, what other bloodlines are going to the Olympics? Deniro is one, Rubinstein line several times. Rubinstein is Rafalca’s damsire.

Fredrikshill, holy smokes that is one uphill baby!! Very nice!:eek:

How close is your Rubinstein linebreeding? I’ve been afraid to do that. Are there many horses line bred to Rubinstein?

Both Romanov and Rosilla both have Rubinstein as a paternal grandsire. I think in terms of linebreeding he is probably one of the safer bets as there are not many negatives when it comes to that stallion (as far as I know)? I know sometimes the R line horses can be a bit flat in terms of movement, so that could be a risk but both Romanov and my mare are quite expressive. Why were you afraid of linebreeding on him?

flatter movement and sometimes they can have soft pasterns

Kyla - good luck. If she catches you will be very happy. Your linebreeding is good, the doubling up sufficiently spaced, in my opinion. Fingers crossed. (I love reading of your breeding adventures, and seeing the results)

Here’s “our” Romanov-collection (beginning with my 2008 filly out of Warkant-Hohenstein)

http://youtu.be/EeIrhBM21uU

Walkaboutstation’s Royal Fortune *2010

http://youtu.be/YfqlH4l16-4

Rothstein *2011 (o/o my Hohenstein-Perser xx mare who is also grandmother to #1)

http://youtu.be/kMPS7ShImAc

Rhodium *2011 (Alexandra’s colt o/o Suaheli by Sandro Hit-Rouletto-Prince Thatch xx)

http://youtu.be/jbXtwroVwzY

Rosario *2011 (owned by Charne Pestana)

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10150234112586158

Riddle Me *2012 (Alexandra’s colt o/o Wolke by Wolkenstein II-Matcho AA)

http://youtu.be/sr4ZQH9HZA0

And lastly we’ve had a client’s *2012 colt by Romanov o/o SPS Shaoli (Sunlight xx-Davignon) who I haven’t got a video from yet.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150885904304581.435775.237648984580&type=3&l=d73ef3f3c3

They all sold very well (except for this last colt who is not for sale). I am now more excited about Rubinio who is setting himself a mark here in the sport and has had less than a handful (yet spectacular) offspring to go from. No risk no fun :wink:

What the Romanov’s we’ve had all have in common is a very brave, outgoing, self-confident personality (sometimes bordering bluntness) so I would think he’s a good match for mares who lack self-confidence.
I like Alexandra’s and Charne’s colts best from all the one’s we’ve had.
Right now we still have 4 of the Romanov kids living on the property. My 2008 filly was bred to Benicio on behalf of her new owners I’m very excited to see what that will produce.

Kareen,
I would be thrilled with any of those foals, they are all beautiful and appear to be good movers! Very nice, thank you for posting videos and pics, I am even more excited now and hoping my mare will catch!:winkgrin:

Kyla - good luck. If she catches you will be very happy. Your linebreeding is good, the doubling up sufficiently spaced, in my opinion. Fingers crossed. (I love reading of your breeding adventures, and seeing the results

Thanks Kathleen, I am glad to hear that from you! Ha and yes, the breeding is a whole different type of adventure now (not the kind I like when I can’t figure out my new alarm and miss getting up!):confused: