I did read for comprehension, thanks, and your usage of veracity makes no sense in this context.
Don’t they all? I mean, if they didn’t there would be term limits, correct?
Not to the extent Trump does, no.
Welp she paid cash for the New Hampshire house, so she definitely had some cash on hand.
Where did you see it ?
I think he does both.
Netflix
I see we are still on politics despite having an entire forum dedicated to it.
Please keep the political debate in the forum so graciously provided for that purpose and get this thread back to the horse-related topic.
Can still post, that’s a good sign!
Here is a biography of Debbie McDonald that summarizes her early history with Bob. I don’t know when it is dated, but for now it still has some information without sidetracking by the Bob drama.
https://www.horsemagazine.com/thm/wh…donald-debbie/
It’s a bit eye-opening for those of us who did not know Debbie’s life history. I’m sure there is far more to know than these two sentences, but still. It explained later that when Debbie was 14, Bob’s daughter was 4 years old, to kind of benchmark things.
Debbie finished High School and became Bob’s assistant trainer. Bob’s wife left, and Debbie became the new Mrs McDonald.
It’s clear from this write-up that Bob was Debbie’s gateway to some very nice horses, just as she was finding her career direction.
That’s pretty disturbing. And sad.
I don’t think it disturbing at all. People leave spouses for someone else all the time. If Debbie had finished high school, she was probably 18, or close to it. They’ve been together almost 50 years. There’s nothing sad about that, in itself.
An adult man with a family meets a 14 year old whose own family is struggling and father is ill.
He grooms her. Hard. He provides the gateway to her drug of choice.
She graduates from high school, and his wife leaves and that’s history.
Yep, it lasted a long time, because he groomed a child to see him as her savior and her doorway to opportunity.
It’s really not ok because it lasted a long time.
You don’t have to be disturbed by it, but I do think you should at least acknowledge he groomed a child to be his mate.
Is there some kind of proof that he “groomed” her, or are you taking what you’ve read and/or heard about child abuse and applying to this situation? Not every relationship between an adult and a minor is nefarious. Many are, and it’s never all right to groom a child for abuse, but I’m not convinced that this relationship fell into that category. Isn’t it possible that as Debbie grew up and became emotionally mature, her relationship with Bob matured as well? That they actually fell in love? I don’t know because I wasn’t there and don’t know the facts. But I think some are way too quick to jump to the worst conclusions.
Bolding for emphasis… sexual relationships between minors and adults are ALWAYS nefarious… just like how not all relationships in office environments are inappropriate. Until there’s a power difference. People are rightfully concerned about the power difference between Debbie and her husband at the time of their marriage. I don’t think anyone is saying that it’s impossible they grew to enjoy each other’s company over the years.
An 18 year old and an adult man have VERY different life experiences at that point. It’s not a compatible partnership. People get married for reasons outside of love/long term stability all the time, the difference here is that one person is virtually a child.
That may be your opinion, but just a heads up that without any actual proof of your claims, sharing that opinion amounts to libel and defamation.
Isn’t this scenario very similar to what happened to Celine Dion and her late husband? She was taken into his fold as a young teen.
No matter the outcome it does smell of an adult manipulating a child.
I dont think that that is legally correct, but if it helps, in my opinion Robert McDonald, who has been banned from all sports governed by an ngb, both as a participant and a coach for sexual misconduct involving minors under 14, groomed his now wife, debbie mcdonald, when she was a vulnerable child.
This is the very definition of grooming, and on its face identical to the relationship between jimmy Williams and Susan Hutchison.
reminds me of Celine Deon
yeah and what Libel? Your post isnt going to effect his business. He did that to himself.