Hi does anyone knows pros and cons of the offspring of this stud? specially Boomrnic on the mother side? Thank you
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Years ago, any with Mr Gun Smoke close up was considered hot.
We wondered about that, as we had a half brother to him that was a puppy dog.
Today many are thought to be amenable for most riders.
thank you, so maybe cross with a layer back stud
They can be quirky.
I heard that some of his offspring are the kind you either get along with them, or if you don’t, you can’t get much done with them.
Some tend to be who they are and you have to adapt to them, which would fit the quirky label.
Boomernic himself was a game changer for the industry, as not many horses rode like him. He started the low headed “fad” - which was how he naturally went. His offspring tended to be more of an “open” ride versus a non pro type horse.
That is what they said of the early Mr Gun Smoke ones, but today, they have been crossed with all kinds of lines and most are seen as easy to get along with.
I am not sure some times that inherited disposition is that dominant a trait.
One of the Boomernic sons we had was a lovely, talented horse.
He was very small and very nice to get along with, was very sound and a veritable energizer bunny of the horse world, keept on going and going and going into old age without slowing down any.
Any one name in a pedigree doesn’t really mean much in itself, but what all that one individual may have inherited of what that one brings to the table.
We bred for the traits we are looking for that we know are in some lines, then hope we are lucky to get those in the foals.
yes you are right, i have a jacs electric spark out of a gallo del cielo and people told me that a cross like that(shining spark x rooster) tend to be hot and difficult but she is very laid back and the most easy and talented mare i v ever had
I would not hold it’s pedigree against a horse if the horse is a good one.
I have to say that every Rooster bred horse we had we were unlucky to have those that were tough to teach, especially when younger.
I am surprised when I see some really nice Rooster ones out there, because none we had were that amenable to work with without sooner or later showing they had their own ideas about things and didn’t mind to try to assert themselves.
I think the Mr San Peppy sometimes difficult character jumped a generation or two and shows up on some Rooster offspring.
Now, Jacs Electric Sparks, we had one of his sons, every one I have known has been such sweethearts.
If that trait tends to be dominant, as it seems to be, that would help soften any other breeding there.
Mind you, I have not been learning about reining that long, had other come up as I have been trying to learn more, so really all I have to go by is what we had ourselves and what others have told us that have been competing for several decades and really know their stuff.
I think to have mentors to learn from is imperative to become truly knowledgeable, no matter what you do.
Then listen to them, no matter what discipline, especially very technical ones like reining, a judged one with many details only an educated eye will see.
yes of course, i try to learn a lot from more experienced people, i think my mare got everything from jacs electric spark, body, color and mind. About rooster you are right, i never heard somebody saying they are easy one, everybody tend to agree that they are tough
now, my yearling colt is by hf mobster out of a boomernic mare, that is why i asked about the stud. He is a quiet boy now but we ll see next year
From what I’ve seen, the Mobsters are pretty laid back. I haven’t heard anyone saying othwise. But of course, He himself was pretty laid back (which isn’t a shock considering he is Gunner X HDI).
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I rode and showed a daughter of Boomernic for awhile and I would agree with this statement. She was very athletic and talented, but sensitive and hotter than the hinges of hell. She did not tolerate mistakes well either. I loved her, she really taught me a lot, but she was definitely challenging. I also rode her daughter, who was by Spooks Gotta Gun, and she was similar as far as sensitivity and athleticism, but definitely easier to get along with.
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In breeding for me, the most important thing in choosing a stallion is to breed off the mare what I don’t like. Studs have tendencies and may be predisposed to throwing a certain type of horse but I always look to the mare first…if I have a line on the mare that’s normally very lazy but this mare is hot, I’m not going to breed her to a hot stud…im looking at the mare as an individual and knowing she’s hot, I will breed to something quieter.
of course their are certain tendencie…Magnum Chic Dreams notoriously fall out of lead and don’t change leads. Gunners are considered numb and numb…wimpys little step it’s either a “good wimpy” or a “bad wimpy.” The list goes on.
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well, i hope my mobster will pick up most of his father character. he really looks like him and seem pretty laid back
Agree with this. Think after you spend many many years in a discipline and see more then a few generations of their offspring coming up through the Junior horse and Fururity levels? And then watch to see what lasts and what doesn’t and see how those offspring come along? You get a better idea of the overall contribution and less influenced by anecdotal accounts of individual animals you never laid eyes on. IMO temperamental tendencies are easily influenced by environmental factors and the parent most likely to imprint temperament is the birth mother who raises it for 6 months.
Was out of that stock/reined horse world by the time Boomernic made his mark in the 90s but friends were with Wards all thru the 80s and early 90s so very familiar with Remenic and his first and second generation offspring. My late BIL had a Reminic daughter, he rode her himself team penning and rented her out for some jackpot roping… If there was any inherent temperament Issues in that line, she would have killed him. What a saint even at 5 years old. Not a plug at all, very quick on her feet, just sensible and understood her job. BILs peer group was always surprised as Reminics were " known to be hot" at that time. Truth was those horses were just smarter then they were.
Was around, rode and knew some of the the Knox horses and the Chex family who the grapevine said could be challenging, IMO with the right handling they were fine and willing. But they weren’t warm fur babies either and in my experience most talented horses in the more demanding disciplines were and are all business. Not pets. Some confuse that with being “hot” when it’s just the horse does not tolerate fools.
Dont recall any Mr Gun Smokes but quite a few I had showed Leo up close on the topside and they could be tough if you didn’t know what you were doing but none finer if you got them to want to work with you. Personally didn’t care for the close up Pocos, hard to warm up to but that’s just me personally, no idea how others got along with them and I didn’t work them on cattle as they were selectively bred to do. Pretty sure that was a factor in their basic attitude…and they probably thought me a fool.
That works both ways, once got one by a sire everybody raved about being kind and tractable. Mine wasn’t. For me anyway. Later found its dam was a notorious byatch, imagine that…Yet a few generations down the line, her descendants were fine and willing. Proving you shouldn’t get too weighted down by pedigree more then a couple of generations back.
