Borium and body sore

I have been using new farrier since about August 2016. He does a good job. He is a CJF.

Finn has always had small dots of borium or the little pin nails on the heels of his shoes both front and back. The barn is up a good sized hill from the indoor and outdoor so I prefer to have borium on year round to keep him from slipping on the driveway. I have never had a problem with this set up for the last 5 years.
Recently the farrier changed the borium to much heavier borium on the heels and a strip across the toes on all four shoes. He said it was for the winter so make sure they don’t slip. He also feels that the horses are wearing out the shoes quickly and the borium will help with that.
Finn is now pretty sore across the top of his butt. It may be from the boys playing in the field but it has been going on a couple of weeks. He has been with the same 3 horses for about 3 years and has never come up this sore. Just love bites on the jawline.
He hasn’t been lame but his butt is pretty tight. I had the massage therapist out and that has helped. However I am wondering if the change in the shoeing has contributed to his soreness.

At my request the farrier will be changing his shoes back to the old set up in the next couple of days just for my piece of mind if nothing else.
To add insult to injury I think Finn is getting an abscess in his left front foot so is now lame in the front.

I am wondering if the extra grip of the borium is too much for this horse. Has anyone else had this problem with a horse getting bodysore from aggressive amounts of borium?

Interested in hearing what others have to say but I wouldn’t think that having borium on shoes year round is a good thing for their joints as there is no “give”. Its like having screwed in studs all the time and that is not good. Borium is very hard and good for snow and ice but not year round in my opinion. I guess it MIGHT depend on how much borium is on the shoe as well.

Just a thought, could the farrier be wanting to put borium on to “save” the shoes so they last longer? I think you said that yourself and that to me is not the best practice. I am not sure how much borium is cost wise as I have only had it a couple of times in the winter.

I am no expert, I am not a farrier but I would really work with your farrier and see what others have to say here as well. Good luck!

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Yes - my horse got sore shoulders one winter due to borium + hard footing in the arena. We do tiny studs now and only in the winter and I ride on the inside track if the footing is hard.

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I would agree with OP in blaming the Borium for horse soreness. The Farrier adding so much MORE to the shoe, is increasing the hard stop Borium puts on the hoof in movement. He might have used Drill Tek instead of Borium, it has larger crystals of carbide which wear off slower, bite the dirt or any paved surfaces a lot harder than Borium. Both Borium and Drill Tek are the trade names of the product using soft metal to hold Tungsten Carbide crystals in place to prevent wear on metal surfaces.

I HATE when someone thinks they are saving money by resetting shoes. Adding more Borium to prevent wear is going to make horse have issues in other body parts. What is the price difference in using new shoes and reset? Usually there is not a lot of difference, not enough to keep using shoes that may have worn nail holes, don’t stay firmly in place. You are paying Farrier for his skill in shoeing horse. The cost of new shoes is a small part of that expense. I have found it a false economy trying to reset shoes. Think of humans who run replacing their running shoes every few weeks because worn shoes throw off their movement. Shoe doesn’t “look worn”, not old, but wear has changed how the shoe works while running. People need new shoes to keep things working well.

We used to use Borium, in dots on the horse shoes for our traction application. Then we found pin studs! These also are based on a softer metal holding the Tungsten Carbide pieces in place for traction under the horse. The advantage of the drive-in pin studs is that they are small, allow microscopic “slip” of the hoof so it doesn’t stop hard each time the horse puts his foot down. Borium and Drill Tek do stop the hoof hard, yet force of horse moving has to go someplace, so it travels up the leg. The microscopic slip of hoof allowed by pin studs allows landing force to dissapate thru the hoof as horse is designed to do. No extra forces travelling up the legs. You can’t see the slip, it is so tiny, but it sure makes a huge difference to the horse in comfort while being used.

We use both the plain pin studs and the ice studs, which are actually pin studs with a collar for wear in wintery conditions. These type of drive-in studs stay sharp with constant wear of the soft metal on the ground surface, so they grip at all times. The ice stud models are not really large, like caulks of old. Horse is not up on stilts on the barn aisle. Does not make a huge hole if someone kicks another horse. We keep horses shod with drive-in studs of both types year around, for using the horses in work on pavement and keeping their shiny side up in winter weathers! Some have been kept in shoes for years with no problems. They don’t get sore from their shoes.

Unfortunately, if horse is large, wears larger than size 5 shoes, his weight and impact force landing on shoe, will tend to break off the drive-in studs. So horses can do very well on both types of drive-in studs, but very large horses do not. The Hunt horses are shod with the snow rim pads, the drive-in ice studs, for their winter “package” while hunting. They have terrific grip, gallop freely with these shoes on because they can trust their feet to grab the ground and not slip.

OP should consider changing to drive-in pin studs or ice studs if she thinks the cold will last. They do need to have straight holes in shoe to be put into, so Farrier having a drill press will insure they can do it correctly. Pin studs can be driven back out, reused if you want to pinch pennies. Or OP can go back to what the horse wore originally in Borium dots. Not sure what her Farrier charges as a difference in costs.

We have been using the drive-in studs now for over 20 years, on numerous horses, after using Borium dots before. Love the pin studs and ice studs, no sore horses after long years of hard use. Just no leg issues at all, and we do travel on pavement quite a bit, getting to the gravel roads.

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My farrier told me that they would never put studs on the front of shoes unless the horse just lived outside all winter. Definitely not if the horse was a working horse.

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Trust me I don’t have a problem with new shows every shoeing. I had not and would never complain about new versus reset. No need to reuse the pin studs either.
Farrier made this change on a few horses in the barn. The previous set up was very small dots of borium on one pair of shoes and the pin studs on the other pair.
It may be Drill Tek as the crystals do seem fairly large. My horse has little feet so breaking the drive-in studs shouldn’t be an issue.

Farrier has said he will move him back to the previous set-up, hopefully by early next week.

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The other problem with applied borium is getting an even and balanced application. With the drive in stud that can’t happen,but I would think that year round applied borium or even front of shoe studs would be overkill, and not good for joints.

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Farrier was out yesterday and changed out his shoes and we went back to the pin studs. He also dug out a little bit where he thinks the abscess is but no drainage. We are soaking and packing the hole with Ichthamol.