Breeders who sell puppies to pet stores?

[Horsegal984]

[QUOTE=IdahoRider;7477594]
The Petland model is what I was specifically addressing. In my childhood we had Doctor’s Pet Shop and Pet City. Puppy mill central. Not a place where animal lovers or knowledgeable animal people lasted as employees.
Sheilah[/QUOTE]

The local one here is called “Last Place on Earth” which is sadly appropriate since so many die before they ever leave the store. Heck it’s not just puppies, I’ve literally never seen a healthy animal come out of there. Of course they can’t be bothered to explain any sort of husbandry for the poor exotic pets. Now they’re selling prairie dogs and of course the new owners about crapped their pants when we told them their sick PD could have the plague…

[Bicoastal]

[QUOTE=Eye in the Sky;7476323]
So, is there a general consensus here that a well-bred dog from a reputable breeder doesn’t or shouldn’t charge $1k+ for a puppy? … I keep seeing the suggestion that somehow pet stores are charging outrageous prices for AKC dogs - or did I misunderstand? Quite possible…[/QUOTE] I do not believe it is a consensus that a well-bred dog is less than $1k. It varies by breed. I would expect to spend around $2000 for a Papillon puppy, around $2500 - 3k for a PWD puppy.

[QUOTE=wendy;7476757]Pet store pups are usually at least as much as a well-bred pup, often more. The “popular” breeds can be astronomically priced- a badly bred “doodle” pup can be $3k in some places.[/QUOTE] What she said. A few years ago, when I was still willing to walk into such places, the prices for Shih Tzus, Lhasas, Yorkies, Goldens, Labs, Beagles, and Dachshunds exceeded those of breeders.

[QUOTE=IdahoRider;7477594]The Petland model is what I was specifically addressing. In my childhood we had Doctor’s Pet Shop and Pet City. Puppy mill central. Not a place where animal lovers or knowledgeable animal people lasted as employees.
Sheilah[/QUOTE] I have zero respect for the employees. They enable the mill. If no one worked there, the corporations couldn’t sustain their storefronts supported by “puppy in the window” impulse buys.

[S1969]

Here’s a timely post from FB this morning:

http://prtproducts.com/the-price-of-a-labrador-puppy-you-get-what-you-p-for/

I laughed about the MH title for $910 – the cost of entering all the tests, and nothing more (no training, driving, gas, check cords, training collars, birds… ) So, this is definitely the minimal cost calculated.

[JanM]

There are lots of sleazy breeders who raise animals specifically for pet stores, and a local chain I knew about when I lived in another state had their own fenced junkyard, and dogs ran in mixed groups, and whatever the beagle/basset crosses looked the most like is the set of papers they put with them. Their pups sold for over $1,000, and the price went down with the amount of time they were at the store. And they had a guarantee, but you had to give the puppy back, and most people had bonded with the dog by then, so they almost never paid off. Google fraud and AKC papers, and you’ll see after a big Westminster win, or a movie about a certain breed comes out the number of puppies in a litter for that breed go up a lot, and the number of litters attributed to the champion parents goes up too.

[Bicoastal]

Chicago passes law about Pet Store suppliers

Chicago passes new ordinance:
“Beginning next March, Chicago pet stores won’t be able to sell dogs, cats or rabbits obtained from large-scale breeding operations that critics call “puppy mills.” All such animals, mostly dogs, sold in the city will have to come from government pounds, rescue operations or humane societies.” ~Chicago Tribune

What do you think?

[LauraKY]

[QUOTE=Bicoastal;7482045]
Chicago passes new ordinance:
“Beginning next March, Chicago pet stores won’t be able to sell dogs, cats or rabbits obtained from large-scale breeding operations that critics call “puppy mills.” All such animals, mostly dogs, sold in the city will have to come from government pounds, rescue operations or humane societies.” ~Chicago Tribune

What do you think?[/QUOTE]

It fixes one problem, but not the other. The impulse buy of a pet.

[S1969]

[QUOTE=Bicoastal;7482045]
Chicago passes new ordinance:
“Beginning next March, Chicago pet stores won’t be able to sell dogs, cats or rabbits obtained from large-scale breeding operations that critics call “puppy mills.” All such animals, mostly dogs, sold in the city will have to come from government pounds, rescue operations or humane societies.” ~Chicago Tribune

What do you think?[/QUOTE]

What about breeders that are not large-scale?