What color will give me the best chance of getting another Palomino?
The only way to guarantee a palomino is to breed a cremello to a chestnut.
Otherwise, and I could be wrong, but I think your odds are 50/50. There are real color experts on the board, so I’m sure one of them will reply.
It really depends on what you want your other color options to be.
Breeding to another Palomino gives you 50% chance of palomino, 25% chestnut, 25% cremello.
Breeding to a chestnut gives you 50% chance of palomino and 50% chestnut.
Breeding to cremello gives you 50% chance of palomino and 50% cremello.
If you breed to a stallion who is not red-based, your chance of palomino goes down.
If you breed to a chestnut you have the option of Chestnut or Palomino. Best chance anyways. If you breed to a black or bay, he NEEDS to have a copy of the red gene (Ee), and agouti (A,a) or brown (At, at) status won’t matter because it didn’t affect red. Stay away from homozygous black (EE) or bay (EE, AA) or brown (EE, AtAt). Hope it helps!
Then a chestnut is probably best. I don’t really like blue eyes on a horse. So any recommendations for Chestnut TB stallions, known for quiet babies, athletic and 16h or under?
My stallion, Master Huntsman, produced a palomino from a palomino mare as well as a number of chestnuts. Most of those babies sported some white markings as well. He is deceased, but I have frozen. He was under 16H and his babies are wonderful to train and handle. But of course, the mare is a huge factor!
PennyG
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My stallion, Master Huntsman, produced a palomino from a palomino mare as well as a number of chestnuts. Most of those babies sported some white markings as well. He is deceased, but I have frozen. He was under 16H and his babies are wonderful to train and handle. But of course, the mare is a huge factor!
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What color is your stallion though, that is what would be important in this case? If the Mare Owner is dead set on producing a palomino out of her palomino mare, then she needs to choose a stallion that is chestnut, palomino or cremello for the highest chance of producing another palomino.
Although your stallion produced a palomino foal, if he is not a single dilute (palomino, buckskin or smoky black), then he had nothing to do with producing a single dilute foal…that single dilute gene (cream gene) came directly from the mare. 
He’s a dark bay but carries a chestnut gene and has produced chestnut from a black mare as well as black and the one palomino. Certainly no guarantee!
PennyG
You can’t absolutely guarantee a palomino foal, from a palomino mare. The only way would be creamello to chestnut, which doesn’t help you. Some color breeders consider single dilutes (palomino, buckskin etc.) to be “end products” rather than breeding stock, and only breed double dilute to no dilute, to always get single dilute foals.
If I’m reading TKR’s posts correctly, breeding to her stallion, you have 25% chance of palomino, 25% chance of buckskin, 25% chance of chestnut, and 25% chance of bay. If you breed the mare to a chestnut, you have 50% chance of chestnut and 50% chance of palomino.
Cremello to palomino would give you 50% cremello, 50% palomino.
I personally don’t like blue eyes/double dilutes, so if I was breeding my palomino mare (which I’m not!) I’d breed her to a bay, probably. I love the buckskins!
You kind of have to be careful. From the responses you seem to be starting with a Palomino mare? If you are breeding from a palomino and breed to another dilute you have a chance of getting a double dilute…they are hard to sell if a gelding and not necessarily easy to sell as a mare unless they are breeding quality. I know someone with a very good Section D Welsh gelding who is from performance lines and well started and as nice as he is as a cremello he is not a nice/popular color. PatO
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Then a chestnut is probably best. I don’t really like blue eyes on a horse. So any recommendations for Chestnut TB stallions, known for quiet babies, athletic and 16h or under?[/QUOTE]
The only one that comes to mind for me is Fleetwood’s Bolero but I think he is a little taller than 16H, maybe 16.1H. What discipline are you breeding for?
Some color breeders consider single dilutes (palomino, buckskin etc.) to be “end products” rather than breeding stock, and only breed double dilute to no dilute, to always get single dilute foals.
Not necessarily so …
I have always bred my cremello TB stallion to my perlino TB mare to 100% get double dilute offspring from that combination because they do sell so well. They sell early, for good prices and from a commercial and monetary aspect it is the best breeding decision I could make.
So any recommendations for Chestnut TB stallions, known for quiet babies, athletic and 16h or under? .
I dont know if he is standing any longer, but Minister General is 15.3hh and produces beautiful babies.
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The only one that comes to mind for me is Fleetwood’s Bolero but I think he is a little taller than 16H, maybe 16.1H. What discipline are you breeding for?[/QUOTE]
Hunters. My mare is only around 15 hands so I don’t want anything too big.
Fleetwood’s Bolero definitely produces hunters and it appears he is 16.1.
http://www.huntfarmtexas.com/stallions.html
Good luck to you!
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Fleetwood’s Bolero definitely produces hunters and it appears he is 16.1.
http://www.huntfarmtexas.com/stallions.html
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He’s cute and seems to cross well with the Appendix.
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Then a chestnut is probably best. I don’t really like blue eyes on a horse. So any recommendations for Chestnut TB stallions, known for quiet babies, athletic and 16h or under?[/QUOTE]
Jupiter! Can’t go wrong.
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Jupiter! Can’t go wrong.[/QUOTE]
LOVE Jupiter but if it is the same Jupiter I am thinking of he’s an Oldenburg. By Zeus?
Oh sorry! Just saw the “tb” requirement. Even though he is 16.3h I would go with Fun And Fancy Free, he is a nice stallion and makes hunters!
