I love this, and hope it is copied in NA. Thoughts?
https://www.horseandhound.co.uk/news/british-eventing-rules-2019-674619
Jealoushe, this has been a USEF rule since I wrote in in 2008
Malcolm
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I wrote this a few years back walking through the USEF/FEI reverse qualification rules…it’s quite confusing to be honest.
Isn’t this why most falls are written down (in correctly ) as rider fall so that a fall doesn’t go on horses record ?
P.
Dear DC, that’s what you get when you have two separate organizations. FEI could have followed our lead as we were first, but…well it is the FEI.
Polydor, falls are generally recorded in the results as the obstacle judge records them. There is rarely any cross check, especially when officials are dealing with xc and sj running simultaneously. There just aren’t enough bodies.I know from experience that these are often caught when the fall report forms are rec’d at USEF and vary from the published results. Staff is really good at catching those. I challenge your assertion that most falls are written down incorrectly. That implies that the USEF/USEA have some sort of ulterior motive for hiding horse falls. That is patently false. Based on the 30 odd competitions where I control xc or officiate, the error is usually on the part of the obstacle judge whose eyes follow the rider and miss what the horse does. When I am controlling, I check my control sheets against the results as a hedge against those sorts of errors, but they do sometimes occur. The fact that you have verified occasional errors does not make those errors the rule rather than the exception. In the end, falls of any sort will subject the horse to being downgraded.
Malcolm
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It’s interesting that there are no rules regarding the lower levels. I suppose that is because there are no qualifications. I’ve know of at least 2 riders with multiple falls at training level in a season. But there is no way to enforce a downgrade; you just have to rely on their own common sense or that of their trainer.
In the interest of disclosure, I had a fall in a starter trial this past season at BN:).
Part of the reason you see so many “R”'s at P and above after a stop is that riders dont want to risk getting the E’s which would require they re-qualify for the level where they had the difficulties.
I Just double checked it, so any elimination counts not just falls. Is this the rule in the US? It’s not here in Canada.
Yes. See EV105.2 (Loss of Qualifications)
https://www.usef.org/forms-pubs/KlV5P9prkmM/ev-eventing-division
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