Is there one? For a nicely bred Swedish warmblood/Hanoverian mare. Where would you advertise?
I’d list her on warmbloods-for-sale.com and on the sales lists for the registries with which she is approved for breeding or is registered.
with that said, the market is still not great. There are great mares out there who are being given away as broodies for a variety of reasons, so the purchase price on one that is strictly a broodmare is not going to be that high. Different story if she is still rideable…
horsechick speaks the truth. I swear that I am offered at least one free broodmare a week. And some have been really really nice and well bred. The market truly stinks right now.
I don’t think the broodmare market is very good either. But, there are some people breeding so to add to sites sonesta recommends, however, I would put her on dreamhorse, and include where she is approved and her extended pedigree. I’m amazed at the people who put broodmares for sale and don’t put that information. It makes it that much harder for someone potentially interested to evaluate the mare.
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with that said, the market is still not great. There are great mares out there who are being given away as broodies for a variety of reasons, so the purchase price on one that is strictly a broodmare is not going to be that high. Different story if she is still rideable…[/QUOTE]
:yes::yes: I find myself wishing about once a week that I had room for another mare or two…this is a big time buyer’s market, and the broodmare sales are the worst!
ditto
I was just having this conversation with a friend this morning!
Broodmares with rideability are easier to place than those not broke. Like Sonesta, we are offered a ‘free’ mare just about every week. Sure wish hay werent so expensive…
The market for hard to come by, valuable broodmares is just fine. A good broodmare doesn’t need to be a riding horse, her value resides in making babies. A good broodmare can only produce so many babies in a lifetime, and wasting time riding them reduces that. They only need to be started to understand their ridability and trainability. This can be done when they are three and pregnant.
That all being said, a good broodmare is one that is correct, comes from a line of mares that have produced, is by a good broodmare sire, and will outproduce herself. The motherline should not have been broken, and her history of the motherline should be clear. This makes a mare valuable.
So I would contact known Swedish WB breeders and let them all know of your mare. They can help you find her a good breeding home.
Tim
I disagree with most of the posters. I lost a broodmare late last summer and had a heck of a time finding something else to get excited about. I wasn’t picky about breed, color, or even age all that much. I was open to certain vices, health problems, or special shoeing needs. But I did want a mare with a solid motherline that had actually produced some respectable competition horses somewhere in the last few generations, or a mare that jumped to at least 1.40 (with a record to show for it - on a sidenote, I got lots of emails about “GP” mares that I looked up in USEF records or German databases, and found that 1.10 was the most they had done…grrrr). I also wanted some well known names in the sire side, to help with saleability of foals.
I had come across 2 mares that were interesting and would have fit the bill - one was a 16 or 17 year old Holsteiner mare with a respectable GP record, but she got scooped up quickly (and not for peanuts) and another was a 14yo Heartbreaker mare with a 1.40m record before she became a broodmare at 8 yo, produced some good foals, and had a motherline that got me jazzed. Her price…25k. There was also a third mare that I contemplated for some time - 10 or 11 yo, Holsteiner from an interesting stamm, I liked her type, and even with the neck injury which prevented her from trotting without tripping, I thought her price of 17k was high but not out of the park.
I had actually put up a very specific want add on warmbloods for sale, which I figured would weed things out. But I got 10-20 emails per day on WB/TB crosses, appaloosas, 10 year old dressage “prospects”, etc that never did anything in their lives. Many were cheap or free to a good home. So yes, there are plenty of broodmares available. But quality mares with the criteria above are rare. I got frustrated and started thinking about buying in Germany - the availability of quality mares there is much higher, and by sending out a few emails, I had a list of a half a dozen young mares in foal to hot stallions, for 15-20k euros. Thankfully for my budget, I ultimately found a mare stateside that worked. A few of my previous mares fell into my lap through contacts, but when actually shopping for a quality mare, they are hard to come by!
I’d agree. A mare with a few famous stallions in her pedigree that has had a couple of foals is not the same as a top broodmare.
Top broodmares from proven, reliable mare lines are rare and valuable and rarely for sale. If there are PSG or higher dressage performers, 1.40m jumpers or Advanced eventers (not necessarily 3***) in the immediate family then the mare is likely to command a 5 figure sum as a broodmare. If there aren’t and the mother line is obscure then the mare is worth very little as a broodmare and would be easier to sell as a riding horse. the only exception to this is if she has produced any outstanding offspring with a proven record which obviously puts her value up.
Yeah , there will be no offers of top broodmares in your inbox everyday. These are few and far between.
I’m not sure alot of folks know what a top broodmare even is ? Many times…a top broodmare doesn’t present as one. You have to know the family and the production record.
You know, top broodmares will always be worth good money, but the OP didn’t seem to be talking about a top broodmare. She made no mention of a high level show career or that the mare had produced high level competitors or that she was VERY highly bred.
Fact remains that there are LOTS AND LOTS of mares out there being offered for free as broodmares. Some with some decent to good bloodlines but not much else going for them.
IMO Just because it can breed doesn’t mean it should.
I’d love to know what ya’ll would consider the top mare lines to be!
Also, I am considering a broodmare (as my AA riding partner).
She was listed in foal for $15k to $20k but never sold. She has quality lines on both sides (D’s and R’s) but once removed. Her father is a current GP stallion but his offspring are not yet competing other than in hand.
Her mother although from a top dressage line was only a broodmare for a few years before being sold and is used as a school horse.
She has had 2 for 2 GOV Premium foals.
This mare (7yo) has never been anything other than a broodmare living outdoors 24/7.
Asking price for her ‘open’ is $12K.
Considering there are plenty of Premium GOV 2yo available with asking prices of $12K would you look at the broodmare or the 2yo’s for an AA?
This is my dilemma. Perhaps if someone lists her mare line as one of the top…I’ll move a bit faster on her 
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I’d love to know what ya’ll would consider the top mare lines to be!
Also, I am considering a broodmare (as my AA riding partner).
She was listed in foal for $15k to $20k but never sold. She has quality lines on both sides (D’s and R’s) but once removed. Her father is a current GP stallion but his offspring are not yet competing other than in hand.
Her mother although from a top dressage line was only a broodmare for a few years before being sold and is used as a school horse.
She has had 2 for 2 GOV Premium foals.
This mare (7yo) has never been anything other than a broodmare living outdoors 24/7.
Asking price for her ‘open’ is $12K.
Considering there are plenty of Premium GOV 2yo available with asking prices of $12K would you look at the broodmare or the 2yo’s for an AA?
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We expect ANY father to be a top stallion by either approval , production or sport…and preferrably all the above.
We expect our broodmares to have produced something other than premium foals unless she is young and then her mother better have and so should the grandmother.
a mare that has only stood around on the field and had 2 premium foals more than likely is not a top broodmare.
Just remember…it costs the same in time and money to breed a top mare versus any old mare.
Good broodmares
I agree they are valuable and hard to find. Just like the backyard breeding of dogs, there are a lot of mares for sale whose breeding makes no sense and even the mare is average quality…who wants that?
I just went through a many months long quest for a top and young brood mare ‘prospect’ by a really good stallion but whose mother line is wonderful. I was getting cross eyed from looking and looking and looking. I was finally successful but had to spend a lot more than my original plan! Sound familiar?
I believe that if all the horses in the pedigree are tops, that mare will produce very well. You may still have to find the right cross for her though AND have a clear idea of what your breeding goal for her is. How much emphasis on type, movement, temprament?? Am I breeding for amatuer or professional market? Am I breeding for FEI or lower levels? They are really not the same animal. Big walk and trot are great in the lower levels but the ability and willingness to collect are key to FEI. Not to mention durability to make it that far.
For me, I breed dressage horses and ponies that can jump. Some are amature types and some FEI.
The mother line is as important as the stallion for sure…some think more so. I also just re-read a 750 page book on sport horse breeding and one thing is clear…over and over again a really successful breeding program can trace his or her good fortune to a great foundation mare. Some even big operations go back to just one super mare and of course her daughters. Harli Siefert in Germany has a mare by Grundstien 11 that has produced, I think 5 premium stallions including Blue Hors Romanov. This mares grandmother was a top 3 day event performer. Sandro Hit’s mother produced him and his great brother Diamond Hit. There are many more stories like this but there are probably 1,000s of stories that are not good or just OK.
Just because a mare has been nothing but a full-time broodmare, does not mean she is not a good one. If you have a good producer, why take the time off (when mare is most fertile) to have her competing? In Germany, a broodmare is a noble vocation, and the best do not take years off to compete.
My 2 cents.
Thank you all, it was just an avenue I was considering. The mare is only 6, has done some hunters, a dab of combined training and has even hunted. She is a lovely mover and has a great disposition. Her damline goes through Silver Card, and all I can find on him was that he was/is a grand prix jumper? Maybe you all can help with more info. Her sire was Ricky Martin, who has passed away I believe. She’s not mine, but in my barn. Thanks.
