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Not picking at your post as wrong, but looking at it as a whole it wouldnât be considered just one of those things. Using the swiss cheese model we can identify several problems, kid unattended and or a kid that wasnât taught how to safely cross a street. Yes we can say itâs kids being kids but laying it out on paper itâs an accident that could have been avoided. Maybe not by the driver but by the parents.
I had the misfortune of seeing a deer pop up from the hill as it jumped over the guardrail onto the car in front of me. Yes there are deer warning signs, and I have my head on a swivel when I drive, yet if that had been my vehicle I wouldnât have seen that deer in time to swerve. So I donât know what a safety team would break that down to for root causes.
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That is horrible! Those poor souls on that bus 
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When I was a child I ran out in the road and almost got ran over. Somehow I managed to react to the impossible to perceive and threw my hands out at the last minute and bounced off the driver side door. They never stopped or slowed downâŠâŠ
It was totally my fault. I learned my lesson, and managed not to run out in the road in front of the cop car the next summerâŠ.
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Also, adult moose are really tall. At night, you may well never see the body of the moose, just the very long legs looking like small trees growing in the road.
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I think I read somewhere that is the reason there is usually so much more damage when there is a moose involved. A deer will usually get knocked down, but the mooseâs body will fall into the vehicle.
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Friend hit an adult white tail buck with big SUV at midnight on a suburban interstate, she was in the left lane, it, apparently, was trapped in the median strip and jumped over the median barrier directly into the left lane right into the left front corner of the SUV. It flew into the windshield, shattering it then somersaulted over the roof.
Had they been in a smaller vehicle they would have joined the deer on the bridge. As it was, they had minor injuries from glass and deer parts, lots of body damage to the SUV, right front fender, hood, windshield, windows, window and doorframes plus the roof of course plus it was a real blood bath.
There was absolutely nothing they could have done to avoid it and she was not speeding. On the plus side she did sell the tag for the carcass to somebody who initially stopped to help, antlers were intact too.
I once had a white tail doe T bone the side of my Explorer at 40mph, never even saw it until it hit and bounced off, came out of the woods like a bullet right into my front door. Small dent but took the left side mirror right off. It ran off, went back to try to find the mirror assembly but no luck. Not a thing I could have done to avoid itâŠit hit me.
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So, a herd of deer ran out into the road in front of me. I was able to stop and not hit a single one ! And as I am sitting there congratulating myself, the last deer broadsides my car as it sits at a standstill âŠgo figure !
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Deer lose their minds when theyâre scared, unlike elk that will stare you down and flip you off as they meander across the road.
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My Deer Tales:
1)Driving on a back road with a City Friend at dusk, I see a deer in the fenced field next to the road.
I point it out to him & he says:
âIt cant get out, itâs behind the fence, right?â
UhHuh⊠5â fence vs 
- Not so happy ending, my Close Encounter was on a 4-lane highway at night.
TG, I wasnât driving, though it was my SUV.
As we came to a light 2 deer come bouncing across the road, crossing the opposite 2 lanes to our left, make it past the left lane - weâre in the right - one hits the driverside door & goes down, the other hightails it off behind us.
Front deer is down, not struggling. Dead?
Thereâs a firestation at the intersection.
We pull in there, driverside door has a dent, but opens with a protest (I never did get it fixed, traded it As Is).
We tell the Firemen about the down deer, hoping they have a gun (if needed) & can get the road cleared.
We didnât stay to find out what they did.
Had this happen to me one dark night coming home from the barn. All of a sudden there was a loud THUDTHUD at my back driverâs side quarter panel. Hit the brakes, looked in the rearview mirror to see a deer bound off into the wood. A big dent and some hair attached to the wheel guard. When I called my insurance agent, he kept saying, âSo, you hit a deer.â No, a deer hit ME!
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It is funny to me how many people do not seem to get that this is a thing.
I would totally expect insurance people to have heard of this before.
I am another one who stopped for the deer crossing the road, a bunch went in front of me and then bam, one ran smack into the side of my vehicle, behind the driverâs door was a big dent and then deer hair stuck in my back bumper (it kind of slid that way and went around the car).
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The outcome for that is going to really depend on the visibility of the cable. You canât âbooby trapâ your property to prevent trespassing, and Iâm sure thatâs where this kidâs attorneys are going with this.
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In that case the neighbors are ruining it for the family. They are telling the news everyone knew about it and had told them repeatedly to take it down. Also one news station reported it had been there for years and potentially was the previous home ownerâs put-up.
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Deer - have had 5 different incidents with deer, 2 of which required major repairs. In every case, deer smashed into me while I was either stopped or going below speed limit. They are an unbelievable hazard where I live.
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I am going to be a little buttinsky here and say I wish we could change the title of this thread because you never know who could be reading it and it has wandered far, far away from acknowledging the tragedy and the pain caused to the connections of Monarchy.
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My sister does not regularly have to go to her downtown LA office, but holy hell - one time I was on the phone with her and she said âWell, I can see my office building, but my GPS still says I have 45 minutes to the parking structureâ. No thanks. I commuted through the worst of Detroit for years and it was always a crapshoot - and very dependent on what time I left. 10 minutes could make a huge difference.
I know lots of people say this about their city - but driving in Detroit and the inner suburbs are terrifying. I have driven in pretty much every major metropolitan and inner cities and nothing rivals Detroit. If youâre not driving 80mph in traffic 1 foot away from your bumpers and passing 4 lanes of traffic at a time, youâre never getting anywhere. And our roads are the 9th level of hell - the salt used in the winter is insane as there are a huge amount of salt deposits under the city and they are mined mostly for de-icing. Which absolutely destroys the roads. So a huge supply of salt and roads that are so terrible that there is actually a fund that you can apply for car repairs due to potholes.
Our current governor had a campaign slogan âfix the damn roadsâ - except she didnât do jacksh*t to repair the roads.
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Do you live in an area with a lot of deer or moose? Iâm guessing you donât. Because if you did, youâd understand how this is just not possible especially when it comes to deer or moose. The roads are usually country roads with higher speed limits and youâre going to cause many more accidents driving along at 20 miles an hour because MAYBE a deer MIGHT jump out. There are locations that it is more likely and times of day that it is more likely, but deer donât wear watches and they will cross roads from thick brush to thick brush at any time of the day or night. You watch as closely as you can but 90% of the time a vehicle vs deer is an accident and not a matter of carelessness.
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You ASSume incorrectly. I live in the middle of 40000 acres of forest and have for over 20 years. Itâs also very rural with lots of cattle and other stock that occasionally get loose. And bears.
Yes. RIP beautiful Monarchy and I hope the drivers are both healing well.
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