all this discussion about the autobahn. i didn’t see anyone discuss how the German system for getting a license of any kind is much more extensive than ours. requires hours of class, testing, etc. maybe that contributes to safer outcomes.
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I have. I actually got a ticket for legally passing someone, but the cop said he clocked me faster than the speed speedometer. This is the state trooper who always gets his way according to
The locals.
When I went to court to fight the ticket, the judges were at a convention and we were not told that they were. Taking work off that day to fight this ticket I had to speak to the DA who refused to show me that the cars were calibrated and also what they use to clock speed. He did lower the ticket speed, but I still had to pay a fine.this is in NC
In Florida, if you show up to fight the ticket and the police officer doesn’t arrived, you can get the ticket dismissed which I had.
Can’t do that in Massachusetts because they want their money
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Bless your heart.
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Bless your heart
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It should be.
you want to see some scary driving go to Pakistan. Or the UAE.
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Just can’t help yourself, huh
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So why is it a bad thing “speed traps” violators are caught. I used to flash my lights at oncoming cars when there was a cop doing the radar thing. I finally realized that is helped people speed and be a$$holes and not get caught when the should be caught. I was helping people BREAK the LAW. I was helping people speed dangerously. I was HELPING the people that eventually re-end people like the Brookledge horse trailer. If they are driving over the speed limit, not paying attention, being on their phone they need to pay the consequences BEFORE they hurt someone. Follow the rules of the road.
No, I am not a goody two shoes, yes I occasionally go 5ish miles over the speed limit. No I am not lane swapping, passing on the double yellow, going 15 or 20 miles over the speed limit.
I am not going to help those that do that.
In general if you are following the rules of the road or at least close to them that “speed trap” is going to ignore you- unless you are driving while black.
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Bless your heart is the last bastion of a pathetic argument lol
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When I took driver’s ed in 1978, we were taught to leave one car length between the vehicle in front of us for every 10 mph of speed. Is that still taught?
I certainly don’t see that now and all too often experience vehicles, particularly on the freeway, dashing diagonally across many lanes into the space I’ve left between my truck and trailer and the vehicle in front of me.
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I was taught the two second rule which was extended to three seconds many years later. And unfortunately, leaving a nice space cushion in front of you on a freeway seems to have turned into an invitation for all to cut in.
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That seems to be true everywhere.
I like to leave a large space and I am constantly having to re-make my large space because other drives consider the space I left as an opening for them to move into that space.
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Have you ever driven in any of those areas, or been driven? It’s terrifying. That’s a fact. I can’t help
It if you see racism everywhere. That’s your problem not mine.
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Hauling through Chicago traffic yesterday, I was thinking of this thread. Leaving space in front of you does not work when everyone else is a jackass. Leaving “4 car lengths” solves nothing, when at a highway merge 5 cars manage to jam themselves into that space.
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My BIL was a SC Highway Patrol officer. At least 15 years ago the state became proactive realizing the number and values of horses being transported in and through the state as the result of a different 18 wheeler wreck with horses. The first responders went through a work shop teaching them basics of handling horses, what horses react to, how to reduce getting hurt handling horses, etc. He found it very informative and helpful. FTR, he grew up a country boy but never handled livestock.
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In Europe (at least in France, Belgium and Germany), there are a lot of speed cameras around in areas with set speed limits. And they are a lot more inconspicuous than any speed camera I’ve seen in the US. I got caught by one in Germany right around the time I thought, hmm, it looks like we are getting close to a town, was there a speed limit sign I missed? Flash! Yep guess so! (And I wasn’t going all that fast anyway because it was a rural road). I’m surprised one of my friends can still rent a car in France she’s gotten so many tickets mailed to her following her vacations.
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So not really a deterrent to speeding. 
I read a study, unfortunately it was a while back and I don’t remember where, but the end conclusion was that the camera tickets that you get later really do not act as a deterrent because it’s not interrupting/correcting behavior in the moment. You’re getting your ticket sometimes weeks later.
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Not for her clearly. But most people I observed personally did seem to drive in a way to avoid photo tickets by driving reasonable speeds on photo enforced roads.
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Cameras DO work. Here’s just one example:
“The city worked with researchers at the University of Pennsylvania to study what difference the speed cameras made. They found that the cameras led to 95% less speeding along Roosevelt Boulevard, which is a much larger impact than other speed camera programs have achieved, according to the research literature.”
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