Ah ok, gotcha, sorry eh! It’s going to mess with both sides and for what… 
Has me pretty concerned for horse keeping…
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Wondering about Timothy Balance Cubes.
Made in Canada.
Bagged in the US.
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I wonder if this will affect the transporting of live horses across both borders for slaughter. If it does, it then presents additional welfare issues with horses having nowhere to go and being at risk of abandonment.
My bet is that DT opens up US slaughter plants again. P25 already specifies that mustangs are to be moved from storage to profit systems so it is a logical conclusion that US plants will be the next step.
As terrible as this sounds, at least the poor animals aren’t subjected to extended travel over the border.
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A lot of Canadian hay around here. I’ve always wondered how Canadian hay can be cheaper than local but a lot of hay fields here turned into corn when corn prices were so high. I guess hay prices are going up.
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Probably not available in the southwest, but in New England you can still easily get shavings from several mills in New Hampshire and Vermont. Our forest economy in New England has been diminished for sure over the past few decades, but does still exist. We have several managed timber stands on our farm and have a cut coming up. Our last cut was during Covid, and I feel really guilty saying it, but the insane lumber prices then really kicked in at the right time for us.
I do generally wish we had more of an orientation to local economies across all industries so that world events wouldn’t be so disruptive - even though that would mean prices would be at least a little (and, in some cases, a lot) higher in the normal course of doing business.
(To be clear, I am not in any way supporting any of this current tariff policy whiplash and unnecessary provoking of such key partners.)
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A couple of years ago there was some sort of a disruption to the train tracks that allowed shipments of bagged shavings to get from Canada into the US. It’s amazing to me that my horses’ bedding is coming all that way, via train then by truck, to the middle of Arizona.
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We are lucky here in the Portland area that our pelleted bedding comes from E. OR (Blue Mountain brand), among others. We have a thriving stove pellet industry so that helps. Shavings used to come from lumber mills, but those have disappeared. Maybe the double tariffs will bring some smaller mills back online to produce domestic lumber?
I do wish hemp bedding was a thing. I am concerned about feed grains and beet pulp-- I know Alberta produces sugar beets and pulp. Not sure if all Canadian feed products/wood products will jump 25%, but that would be a huge hit to cattle, horse and poultry owners.
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got two tons of TEFF hay last week, price went down 3%, the delivery fee was down 25%
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The United States is currently one of the world’s largest producers of sugar beets. In 2023, the US produced about 35.23 million tons of sugar beet. The Red River Valley in western Minnesota and eastern North Dakota is largest producing area un the US
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It makes no sense for them to impose tariffs in retaliation. It only hurts the domestic consumer. The exporter doesn’t pay the tariff. The importer does. Which means higher prices to the end consumer to cover that extra import cost. The theory is to promote buying domestic and to encourage more domestic production. Which would also cost more as there is a reason for sourcing materials abroad in the first place. And then there are some products we just don’t produce here, and/or at least not year round.
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Probably due to the exchange rate on the dollar.
Shipping will go up by 30% minimum. It will soon be impossible to make money breeding, it’s already difficult but it will be impossible. Equine veterinarians are leaving many states or even the US. It’s an industry of women after all. So yeah, prices of horses are going to go up and difficulty of finding them will as well.
And I don’t know about you guys but I have stopped using social media including facebook which makes finding horses to buy pretty hard. I’m actively shopping now and while Facebook was terrible the alternative is ???.
as an aside expect to lose access to federal land to ride on and possibly state land too. I went to a big tech bro university and worked in internet 1.0 in the 90s, my college bf moved straight to SV after graduation as did many of our friends. I’ve been around that world since it started. There are NOT the people anyone involved in farming or outdoor recreation wants running the country, trust me. Here is an overview of their interest in our “land” https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=5RpPTRcz1no&ab_channel=BlondePolitics|TheSillySerious
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In case anyone didn’t know.
The North American Free Trade Agreement (1980s) and it’s successor (signed by Trump last time around) created a much more integrated economy across the three countries of Canada, Mexico and the USA.
Under these agreements, the auto industry in particular has factories in all three countries that operate cross border without friction. They’ve all set up to do this and are integrated. They can’t really function with this access cut off.
The free trade agreement is still in force, it’s just been over ridden by an emergency measure.
The construction industry is dependent on Canadian lumber. The energy sector is dependent on Canadian oil. The restaurant sector is dependent on Mexican avocados:)
Anyhow, I am interested to watch the response from corporate America as all the trade patterns of the past 40 years are destroyed.
Canada is considering export levies on key raw materials like aluminum, potash and uranium etc that would add to the cost for American companies buying them.
And yes all liquor from the US is getting pulled off the shelves at the BC government liquor stores.
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You know they’ve already done it right? Targeted tariffs on specific mostly luxury products or those with Canadian or EU alternatives like alcohol or automobiles.
No they are not stupid enough to impose tariffs on raw materials, only the US is doing that.
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I must thank Trump for showing me that there are Canadian companies that produce and sale the same items that I was buying from the US. Also, if I can’t find a Canadian company I now look to the EU and Britain. USA is not the only player in the world marketplace. His first time as President taught me this.
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What will cause that?
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I have stocked up three years-plus of parts for my Deere tractor and GM farm pickup at today’s prices. I know I will eventually need these maintenance parts and they are manufactured in Mexico. My hay comes from Idaho and California, and I think that fuel and transportation cost, plus fertilizer costs for the hay farms, will increase my hay price significantly.
Meanwhile my pension and social security income will lag behind the cost of running the farm. I wish I had an idea how the stock market will fare as that’s where my pension fund income is generated.
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Teff hay is about $40 per bale here in Florida. They are big bales but I won’t buy them for that price.
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I use Hemp bedding produced and sold by a Canadian company. https://www.flaxfarm.ca/ It’s great: no dust, a little goes along way, composts quickly and it’s pH is neutral (wood is acidic), absorbs pee well and is easy to pooh pick.
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This morning we’re being told that our collective pain “is worth the price that must be paid.”
And here I was, expecting the price of eggs and bacon to go down. Silly me.
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