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[LovieBird]

@Jealoushe

Right! I have mad respect for Jess Payne. She is always totally open and honest about things, way more honest than the average pro. Both the Paynes are a huge asset to Equestrian sport.

Agreed! I like them both very much.

[Marigold]

@Marigold

He can take responsibility for the horse falls he caused by designing a question that relied on frangible technology to be safe, but then applying that frangible technology ignorantly and as a result, dangerously.

Even if the frangibles had worked as intended, I consider it wholly irresponsible to put a question on course today that you would not have designed before frangible technology existed. The technology exists as a last resort, not to create a show jumping course out of solid fences. It’s my opinion that he designed in this way, but if Ian Stark will publicly say he thinks CMP took risks he would not have previously, that’s good enough for me to consider it a fact.

On this note, in the coroner’s report about the death of Olivia Inglis, the following is written:

All the experts emphasised that frangible technology should not drive the design of particular fence, nor should it be used to justify what would otherwise be an inappropriate fence.

Link (quote from page 38): http://www.coroners.justice.nsw.gov.au/Documents/INGLIS%20Olivia%20-%20Findings.pdf

For reference, “all experts” in this case are Mike Etherington-Smith, Alex Lochore, Paul Tapner, and Grant Johnston. Not exactly uneducated. In this case, the coroner did not explicitly conclude that the course designer had used this as his design methodology. I really hope we never have to read a coroner’s report that says otherwise.

[FrittSkritt]

@Marigold

For reference, “all experts” in this case are Mike Etherington-Smith, Alex Lochore, Paul Tapner, and Grant Johnston. Not exactly uneducated. In this case, the coroner did not explicitly conclude that the course designer had used this as his design methodology. I really hope we never have to read a coroner’s report that says otherwise.

Wish I could quote the quote, but I want to thumbs up what you quoted there about 3 million times. CMP doesn’t seem to follow those guidelines.

Does anyone have a photo or drawing of what the fence she fell at?