There are trainers on the backside who won 3 races all of last year more qualified to train horses than Anthony Adamo and Darrell Delahoussaye.
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Iām wondering if anyone has ever challenged Mr. Gill to explain what his training methods are that are so superior that he can win races at such a clip? After all, he hasnāt been hiring remarkably talented trainers, just people who will do things Michaelās wayā¦whatever that is.[/QUOTE]
Clearly itās because he is treating all his horses for EPM and doing throat surgeries since one of them can breathe because of the EPMā¦ just read the Paulick Report ( :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: )
Iām waiting on tenterhooks to hear how the meeting with the jocks wentā¦
Somebody posted on the Paulick Report that she has the name of the person buying and hauling Gillās horses to slaughter in Canada. And also, Gill apparently has a 2nd farm near Elk Creek where he keeps the cripples, near State and Barren Roads in Oxford, Pa.
Very disturbing information.
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Somebody posted on the Paulick Report that she has the name of the person buying and hauling Gillās horses to slaughter in Canada. And also, Gill apparently has a 2nd farm near Elk Creek where he keeps the cripples, near State and Barren Roads in Oxford, Pa.
Very disturbing information.[/QUOTE]
That I hope will be investigated ASAP. That would really put the nails in his coffin, wouldnāt it???
The meeting ended up being pretty much nothing. Penn informed the jockeys they are suspending any Gill horses until the results of the necropsy are known. Yawnā¦we already knew this.
I know, I know, I was supposed to go back under my rockā¦ I cannot BELIEVE some of the crap heās saying. I imagine if he were to analyze his statements from a legal perspective, he would advise himself to shut the fork up. From Paulick aloneā¦
-Heās been in this business since 1979 and ācanāt get a fair shakeā. He has an eclipse award! What does he want, a litter and seven virgins feeding him grapes?
-80% of horses have EPM. ā¦ Right. And a myectomy is the answer when they have EPM. 25% of the human population has a diagnosable mental illness, so letās give most people a lobotomy. I nominate Gill to go first.
-Heās given 20 horses away in the last thirty days. Anyone in that area of PA want to make some local inquiries to locate any of those horses? At that rate, the PA countryside should just be littered with Gill rejects in āgood homesā.
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Somebody posted on the Paulick Report that she has the name of the person buying and hauling Gillās horses to slaughter in Canada. And also, Gill apparently has a 2nd farm near Elk Creek where he keeps the cripples, near State and Barren Roads in Oxford, Pa.
Very disturbing information.[/QUOTE]
Thatās the sort of information that might actually make a difference.
Someone needs to drive to the alleged killer barn TODAY and get some evidence without trespassing. Doesnāt anyone know a current worker who will come out and spill the beans? From what I heard, it looks like Adamo is trying to save his butt and throwing Gill under the bus. Maybe he could save face by telling the truth.
And Iām sure the necropsies are going to inconclusive. :sigh:
He only had Laughing Moon for two of his 37 starts. So Iām sure what ever they find could be blamed on the previous 7 ad a half years of the horseās life.
I just hope the jockeys stick to their guns.
He actually KEEPS them?? I thought he sold them to slaughter. Or did I misread your post?
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He actually KEEPS them?? I thought he sold them to slaughter. Or did I misread your post?[/QUOTE]
I would assume heād keep them until there is a full loadā¦ heās certainly not stupid enough to send large numbers of horses through New Holland these days, so Iād guess there is a truck that goes straight to Canada from his farmā¦
But maybe thatās just the pessimist in meā¦
I am sure if any of his charges showed up at a low end sale, the media would be all over it. I am sure there are people who are on the lookout.
So loading them up and shipping them out, hardly conspicuous for a big outfit like his.
On another note, I did some digging - not too much just so I can tell my husband not to drop a penny on races with his horses inā¦
I came across a blog that was kinda interesting. The Author welcomed Gill back to the game, under the assumption of good care for the horses.
A couple of ex trainers chimed in as well as Sam Elliot, VP of racing in Suffolk Downs.
Now you tell me how one can step in front of the media and announce āZero Toleranceā for slaughter while at the same time cheering Gillās intentions to bring his show to that track so he can āenjoy racing with his childrenā
(not to mention how traumatized I was when I saw my first break down on a track, being maybe 12 years oldā¦)
I am off now to make more coffee and ponder if the answer to the meaning of life is not closer to 43 than 42ā¦
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Someone needs to drive to the alleged killer barn TODAY and get some evidence without trespassing. Doesnāt anyone know a current worker who will come out and spill the beans? From what I heard, it looks like Adamo is trying to save his butt and throwing Gill under the bus. Maybe he could save face by telling the truth.[/QUOTE]
I hope Tony does the right thingā¦he started out with bottom level horses and ought to know that taking shortcuts does not replace honest, hard work.
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Someone needs to drive to the alleged killer barn TODAY and get some evidence without trespassing. Doesnāt anyone know a current worker who will come out and spill the beans? From what I heard, it looks like Adamo is trying to save his butt and throwing Gill under the bus. Maybe he could save face by telling the truth.[/QUOTE]
What is the address? Does anyone know? Iā pulled up an aerial image on mapquest, but there appear to be several horse farms in the Barren Road/State Road area in Oxfordā¦ Not that I can do a drive by today seeing as Iām in Maine, but Iām curious to see what it looks like from the air, if nothing else.
I hope Adamo does roll over on him.
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What is the address? Does anyone know? Iā pulled up an aerial image on mapquest, but there appear to be several horse farms in the Barren Road/State Road area in Oxfordā¦ Not that I can do a drive by today seeing as Iām in Maine, but Iām curious to see what it looks like from the air, if nothing else.
I hope Adamo does roll over on him.[/QUOTE]
Post # 236 has a link to aerial veiw. It is about 1 mile (as the sober:winkgrin:crow flies) from Fair Hill Training Center.
What exactly do they plan on proving by doing a necropsy? Iām sure with an older horse it is going to show the horse had arthritis, old injuries, etc. of which Gill may or may not have been aware of. I donāt see how it will prove his innocence or his guilt.
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Post # 236 has a link to aerial veiw. It is about 1 mile (as the sober:winkgrin:crow flies) from Fair Hill Training Center.[/QUOTE]
That is his Training farm, correct?
I ment the alleged second farm that serves as a dumping ground for his cripples.
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What exactly do they plan on proving by doing a necropsy? Iām sure with an older horse it is going to show the horse had arthritis, old injuries, etc. of which Gill may or may not have been aware of. I donāt see how it will prove his innocence or his guilt.[/QUOTE]
Everyone knows this, even Penn National, but theyāre trying to buy time while they really figure out what theyāre going to do. If I was a suit at Penn, I would do the same thing while I consulted with my lawyers. Of course if I was at Penn, I would have never given Gill stalls and after the rash of the breakdowns in the fall I would have asked my men on the ground there what they are doing about the Gill breakdowns because it seems to me that they did nothing.
There are so many tentacles to this story, but here is whatās going to happen.
Because Penn doesnāt count a breakdown if itās vanned off before being put to sleep, theyāll show statistics about how his breakdowns are āslightly higherā than the national average. Theyāll then institute a stricter policy regarding pre-race exams for all horses on the backside and ask everyone to give Gill another chance.
Then it will be up to the jockeyās to cave or hold their ground. From what Iāve heard, they will hold their ground until those horses are off the grounds.
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From what Iāve heard, they will hold their ground until those horses are off the grounds.[/QUOTE]
We can only hope.
As for this Adamo, Iāve heard from some pretty reliable sources that I trust totally that he left Canada owing everybody money up there.
Why in the world does Pennsylvania license people like that?
I know, is just another case of making welcome anybody from out of state right?:rolleyes:
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That is his Training farm, correct?
I ment the alleged second farm that serves as a dumping ground for his cripples.[/QUOTE]
He does not dump his horses at the farm near Barren Rd. For a very short time in 2008 when his claiming spree started he kept a few here (much to the dismay of some of the people that have been here for many years) until the people that were renting stalls from him at Elk Creek Ranch could find other places to keep their horses. I am definatly not a supporter of his practices but we donāt need rumours started about our beautiful,quiet little training center.
