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You cant fine a jock for coming down with the flu and staying home…just sayin…[/QUOTE]
Yeah, just ask Taylor Hole.
Jocks are having a meeting tonight at 6 p.m. Maybe more news after that.
Philly Park just canceled their racing for this afternoon, wonder if Penn will follow suit.
I’m not that familiar with racing…how does that process work? Can’t the jocks just refuse to ride his horses?
[QUOTE=DickHertz;4649571]
Yeah, just ask Taylor Hole.[/QUOTE]
Splain please…
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Jocks are having a meeting tonight at 6 p.m. Maybe more news after that.
Philly Park just canceled their racing for this afternoon, wonder if Penn will follow suit.[/QUOTE]
Why would Philly have cancelled their races?
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I’m not that familiar with racing…how does that process work? Can’t the jocks just refuse to ride his horses?[/QUOTE]
Entries are drawn one day and considered essentially overnight entries. The next morning in most cases, the jockey agents must “OK” their mount by “checking on”, in layman’s terms confirm they are indeed riding the horse they were entered on. Tomorrow morning, it is everyone’s hope that the agents take off all their mounts in the races where Gill has horses entered. If they do that, unless there are a turncoat or two (which is a real possibility) the horses entered against Gill would have to be scratched if nobody is willing to ride them which would in all likelyhood force Penn to cancel those particular races on the night’s card which would create an embarrassing situation for Penn.
Of course, bettors could also take a stand by refusing to play any of Penn’s races where Gill has a horse entered.
[QUOTE=Acertainsmile;4649603]
Splain please…[/QUOTE]
Taylor Hole takes off quite frequently for a variety of reasons. He must have the worst immune system of any jockey ever.
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Why would Philly have cancelled their races?[/QUOTE]
It’s cold.
Philly cancelled because the track was all balled up due to the cold weather. I don’t know if Penn might have the same problem tonight or not.
Possibly weather? It’s VERY cold and VERY windy here today
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I’m not that familiar with racing…how does that process work? Can’t the jocks just refuse to ride his horses?[/QUOTE]
Yes. A rider is not forced to accept any mount. And, if a horse feels off, the rider can refuse to ride prior to entering the gate. Riders are always justified in refusing to ride in unsafe conditions - a lame horse, an unsafe track suface, an electrical storm, etc. But, as a rider you cannnot - without being sanctioned by the stewards - just refuse to ride. The problem with the riders refusing to ride in any race a Gill horse is in is that it’s hard to really say that puts them in undue danger. Plenty of Gill horses make it around the track safely and finish very well. If a Gill horse came into the paddock headbobbing lame and the riders refused to ride in the same race as that horse, that would make sense. But, it’s hard to justify refusing to ride with unknown horses.
Makes me wonder…did PENN “give” those stalls originally to Gill or Dellahoussaye? Since I’m sure part of Penn’s defense is that they can’t hold the owner accountable, is “giving” the stalls to an owner in the first place kosher?
Is it just me or does the entire situation seem shady and underhanded right from the very start? Surprised anyone?
No, it doesn’t sound shady. The track assigns stalls to a licensed trainer, but based on the horses in the trainer’s care (you actually have to list the horses on the stall application). So, Penn gave Delahoussaye stalls based on him having Gill’s horses. If Delahoussaye cannot fill those stalls with horses - that’s a lot of stalls, so not an easy task - Penn can certainly reassign them. Could Delahoussaye and Gill’s other trainer wind up in the same shedrow? That could be interesting.
Thanks for explaining! Couldn’t the owners and trainers also step up and scratch their horses if they are running against Gill?
[QUOTE=DickHertz;4649609]
Taylor Hole takes off quite frequently for a variety of reasons. He must have the worst immune system of any jockey ever.[/QUOTE]
Gotcha… guess that what happens when your as tall as he is and weigh next to nothing…
To the folks with Gill horses, what are their names, and where did they come from?
Has anyone thought to fax the list of missing Gill horses to the stewards at Penn? At least they would have a record, and hopefully some will be saved wherever they are.
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Gotcha… guess that what happens when your as tall as he is and weigh next to nothing…[/QUOTE]
And I love Taylor, but at some point he’s going to have to decide whether to ride or move on to other things.
But what if it the horse’s ailment is blocked and can’t feel a thing? Not even Dr. Bramlage could see the horse is off. Just to be clear, that is the jockey’s beef. They believe there are medications or procedures being done on Gill’s horses and them not feeling any pain is why the breakdowns are more sudden and dangerous than other breakdowns.
[QUOTE=DickHertz;4649707]
And I love Taylor, but at some point he’s going to have to decide whether to ride or move on to other things.[/QUOTE]
Yep, he’s a nice kid… seriously though, my husband is almost 6ft and could pretty much look him in the eye when he came in our barn!
I hope the jocks realize that the racing world is watching them and supporting them…It has to be hard bc this is how they make a living and put food on the table…
It is funny, if Penn is worried about a law suit now, what happens when (not “if”) one of these breakdowns seriously injures or kills someone? It is bound to happen. Racing is high risk without all of the extra uncertainty in this situation…
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It is funny, if Penn is worried about a law suit now, what happens when (not “if”) one of these breakdowns seriously injures or kills someone? It is bound to happen. Racing is high risk without all of the extra uncertainty in this situation…[/QUOTE]
I was wondering the same thing this morning. I’m assuming there are layers of protection around Penn, but would they be opening themselves up to a better possibility of a lawsuit by essentially forcing the jockeys to ride or find a new track if they really object to riding in races with Gill horses?
