This is true…and I have made that statement myself many times…
You don’t ride the papers. BUT…the papers are proof of the horse’s provenance and its breeding so the add value to the animal. It is like being able to sell a car with the original “build list” from the dealership that shows that the seller was the original owner or there is a paper trail of the car’s ownership.
Not sure why you need to repeat this over and over again… obviously this horse was registered all the time and it’s gelding….
We are not talking about a mare or a stallion….
But obviously the registries established the values of their paperwork in the heads of the potential buyers 
… good for them….
But you can’t convince me…. If I would buy a gelding his registration ( or not registration) would not be a criteria for me… …
Breeders work so hard to produce top horses, they would like their breeding to be recognized, why so many hope people will keep registration papers with horses, so when competing their breeding is seen as successful.
Unless someone has been a breeder, many people tend to overlook performance horse breeding, while those following lines love for competition horses to have the breeding listed along with their name.
Having proof of lineage may also give some idea of the likelihood of genetic disease e.g. PSSM, DSLD. For a bunch of these testing does exist but often times a seller does not allow testing. Looking a the papers may allow the buyer to better weigh the risk. In the stock horse world it’s often thought that a horse known or suspected to be positive for one of these diseases will suddenly become grade. PSSM and HYPP may be expressed independent of sex.
DOV would be Deutsch Oldenburg Verband. Interesting that the name is 2/3 German and 1/3 English.
Except it’s not…GOV is the English translation. See above what the German is on the sample passport. Oldenburger Pferdezuchtverband e.V. And in Germany, the abbreviation is OL usually for the book for dressage horses. Unless you are in the OS book like my horse, which confuses dressage show organizers. That is the Springpferdezuchtverband Oldenburg-International book.
Except it is, in part. Verband is not an English word.
? Just saying I have been breeding as well. And I can tell you most breeders in Germany have no idea what happens to the horses they bred once they get sold to the US or other countries…
So this sounds strange to me…. You can discuss the importance of registration for a gelding into the last detail but you don’t really need to adress me because you will not convince me anyhow
How does it confuse or have an impact on show organizers? Genuine question. I’ve not heard or considered this before.
Manni, you said this upthread:
So is there a way to get a passport for unregistered horse? Wouldn’t you still need a passport to record vax, etc., and so you could take him shows and otherwise transport him within Germany and/or the rest of the EU, or export him?
The world is diverse, there are all kinds of people and with their own motivations out there.
There are also all kinds of horse breeders and for a good number of them, the main reason breeding in general exists, is to breed to improve the breed and have better offspring than their parents.
We can’t work at breeding without goals and ideas and following bloodlines has always been important, is one way to breed better, to know what you may have in each individual according to their bloodlines, as just thinking is a good one, let’s make more like it is not enough when breeding, misses so much more than breeding is.
That is why it matters that papers follow all, as many as you can have, the more the more accurate we can be as breeders, avoiding pitfalls.
The western world has been very good at that, can measure what is good or not so good because bloodlines matter, certificates with each horse, as many as possible, matter for that goal.
Is how diseases were found, like HPPY and HERDA and others, then up to the breeders to use that information to become better breeders.
To glibly dismiss registration certificates for horses is just being shortsighted when it comes to the importance that breeding records are to our horses, all the many kinds of horses we have.
Don’t let being perfect, keeping track of every one individual, not so easy in the real world, impossible, be used to dismiss the importance of trying to know as much as we may from as many as we can, as breeders, about the horses we breed.
German Oldenburg Verband (GOV) was coined for use in NA to signify that it was the official North American arm of the Oldenburger Verband and to distinguish it from Oldenburg North America. The latter is an offshoot of the International Sport Horse Registry and despite its use of the Oldenburg name, it has no affiliation with the Verband. Also, the registration numbers it issues do not start with DE 433 33. They used to start with 90 and I don’t know if that changed if and when they adopted the UELN numbering schema. They may or may not start with DE 433 because those characters indicate the country housing the original database that registered the horse. Since ISR/ONA is/was owned and run by a couple of German men (one in Germany, one in the U.S.), and the papers were issued from Germany, the papers may start with DE xxx, but the next digits would not be 33 because those digits indicate the database or organization that registered the foal or horse. So “33” digits indicate Oldenburg Verband, while ONA papers probably still show “90.”
Correct. And yes, “OS” does confuse people in NA, who sometimes assume it means Oldenburg Studbook, and also often think that it is the same as Oldenburg North America (ONA).
Because show entries have a field for Breed and if the person filling out the papers simply writes OS, the organizer doesn’t know what that means. The entry lists usually reflect what the entry form says (such as Oldenburg, GOV, KWPN, Han, etc.), but there are some organizers who are more attuned to breeding and registry stuff and get curious when they see an acronym or breed designation they are not familiar with. It can also be an issue when reporting results to USEF because some registries support All Breeds awards offered through USEF.
If we want to be pedantic, maybe that should be Deutsch"er" Oldenburg"er" Verband, but was not, is as already stated Oldenburger Pferdezuchtverband. 
Of course there is a way to get a passport for an unregistered horse. There are people (like in the US) who prefer for whatever reasons to get a graded horse or to rescue horses from other European countries. In my barn there is a pony mare without registration. Her owner decided to breed her twice ( BTW that’s not something I would do) her foals are rather nice and of course they can be shown once they grow up. You have to pay more fees to get them registered as a showhorse but breeding and showing is not connected…. And you have to pay for a passport anyhow because every horse in Germany is required to have one
Yes, all of that I know. I just don’t get why it’d cause any sort of issue. If I see something I don’t know, I ask, or research it. Not that interesting or eventful, but to each their own.
This is something that I really miss about Europe in general. I love passports because I just like having a booklet of all of the vaccinations, chip info, and other horse info.
My horse has a passport but a US vet did not want to put his vaccines in there. Usually there’s a sticker, date, signature, etc.
Most of the shows here use an online system, and I entered that in when making the online profile for the horse. A lot of the organizers don’t know what it means. Some change it to say OLD. No one has ever changed it to GOV though. He’s obviously bred to jump, and we have been doing dressage for mileage/show experience. Unlikely to be getting any breed awards until he grows out of the phase where we are prone to a comment of “naughty” or “drama” somewhere on the test. 
And if you enter a show in the US the vet gives you a simple piece of paper which shows the most recent vaccinations…. No sticker of the batch simply his signature and some handwritten things… and after some months you have to ask him for another piece of paper……
It would be great if they all had booklets that went with them. And housed their vet records
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