Buying weanlings

Those don’t look like normal horses. They look distorted. How could anyone think this is attractive?

I feel sorry for those horses to have such non functional bodies

[QUOTE=fordtraktor;8876480]
Draftmare, just so the difference is more clear – here is a webpage FULL of champion halter horse pics. Everything about the hindquarters and the straight/post legs behind is just wrong for performance. http://www.clarkrassi.com/main.html And these are breeders who have bred over 20 World Champions so these horses are representative of the “halter” style.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=fordtraktor;8876429]
Well, all I know is that I have a TON of friends who show quarter horses at high levels (Congress, World Show, etc.) from my childhood days. None of their western pleasure or HUS horses have halter blood. None of the halter horses have any performance lines. The western or HUS ones sometimes do performance halter but it is VERY rare to find a horse that will be successful at AQHA shows in regular halter and also performance classes. It is a TOTALLY different look of horse, at least to me. So yes, the description of her as a halter-looking beefy type would make me cross her off my list as a long term performance prospect. Of course that could be wrong, just going by your description.

My advice – and you should ignore if this isn’t what you want in a horse or if the pros you work with say the baby is actually more of a performance type – don’t look at stallion pics to determine what the proper type is for a WP prospect. Watch the 2 year old WP classes. At that point, even horses that get a bit bigger as stallions (common bc testosterone, etc.) were not at all halter-like. If it is beefy as a baby I expect too much beef as an adult horse to maintain the performance look. For example, watch VS Flatline’s video. His current pictures are WAY beefier now than he was as a 2 and 3 year old when he was still quite svelte. His “bulk” is not the kind that halter horses have, even now – the hind end is all different and wrong for halter. I would look for an elegant baby, not a halter baby.

better yet, look at VS Code Red’s video. He’s still not beefy at all and has the type I’d look for in a pleasure prospect myself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m_Ha8_LP58

Again, all personal preference, if you like the beefier horses that’s OK. I just don’t care for them myself.

FWIW, I have had several WP-bred horses who were great performers. My Zippo Pine Bar pony won a lot in the 3’6 jumper divisions at USEF shows. I really like quarter horses but the performance ones.[/QUOTE]

I do like the older style QHs better, the more bulldog types. Actually, that is what I generally go for in all horses. But I do want to a horse that I can do relatively well on, or at least feel competitive on. I have been wanting a AQHA show quality horse for a long time.

This is the best picture I have of her right now: https://goo.gl/photos/zi5K4DU5Qiidu7EQ9. The dam goes back to The Big Investment top and bottom. She is by Prinzziple.

I love VS Flatline, by the way. Barn is expecting two foals by him in 2017.

[QUOTE=beowulf;8876444]
this is where the two sports diverge entirely…

it’d be pretty dumb to spend $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ on a weanling race horse and not x-ray or ultrasound. for WBs, it’s a little different… but generally, one is looking for OCD, looking at the hocks/stifles especially, nasal cavity, congenital defects in the heart/lungs…

for the average person not buying a future race-horse, one can see why x-rays or ultrasounds wouldn’t matter as much.[/QUOTE]

Maybe TBs are different animals then warmbloods, but there were extensive studies in the Netherlands about Chips. And they found that there is no way to diagnose chips before the age of 2. They come and go because of the development of everything… So if you x ray the weanling you might get clear x-rays but as a 2 year old you can still have chips…

Here are a few articles that might help, Draftmare.

http://gohorseshow.com/2014/09/top-trainers-discuss-tips-on-buying-futurity-projects/

https://www.horsejournals.com/ideal-western-pleasure-horse

http://instrideedition.com/2014/06/longe-line-part-two-picking-the-right-prospect/
(Longe line is about Pleasure prospects. The first two describe conformation you want, and the last shows how every single person with experience focuses on movement). That light, flat-kneed, reaching under hind leg, level top line and wanting to be slow naturally kind)