That’s always the question with a juvenile sire, isn’t it? 
I figure a nice ammy jump is a fine thing to settle for and probably what you are going to get (if awesome hunters were only as easy as breeding two horses with an awesome jump), but you might as well aim higher, right?
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That’s always the question with a juvenile sire, isn’t it?
I figure a nice ammy jump is a fine thing to settle for and probably what you are going to get (if awesome hunters were only as easy as breeding two horses with an awesome jump), but you might as well aim higher, right? ;)[/QUOTE]
Yes I guess it is.
Just a personal thing I suppose, but for my money if I am going to use a juvenile sire, I want a deal on the stud fee. :yes: Otherwise I may as well go with a stallion with a proven track record of PASSING ON a good jump.
Love Cabard
[IMG]http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq74/martiare2/DSC_0068.jpg)
What a striking face, airborne!
I <finally> clipped Peyton last night (he was a saint…stood still while I did all of him- belly, face, ears and all!), and his short coat underneath his long baby fur is a beautiful dark dark brown, almost black. So pretty!!
Here are a few updated pictures: http://pets.webshots.com/album/572926963ItqYQs
I don’t disagree with that, but I’d probably only be expecting a discount if I was bringing all the mare to the game. Or at least that’s how it plays out in the most of the TB and QH world, and I do give those stallion owners full credit for smart management of stallions. You have all the mare and you’re willing to risk your top quality mare on their juvenile stallion, then they are willing to give you a big discount or even a free breeding. There is no value in getting a book full of mediocre or unproven mares to a good stallion the first few years out (thanks to a bargain stud fee) because that stallion’s reputation can be made or broken by those first few crops, and you want the best he can produce on the ground first. Conversely, I have rarely seen those stallion managers advertise that discount, it’s something you need to ask about.
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I don’t disagree with that, but I’d probably only be expecting a discount if I was bringing all the mare to the game. Or at least that’s how it plays out in the most of the TB and QH world, and I do give those stallion owners full credit for smart management of stallions. You have all the mare and you’re willing to risk your top quality mare on their juvenile stallion, then they are willing to give you a big discount or even a free breeding. There is no value in getting a book full of mediocre or unproven mares to a good stallion the first few years out (thanks to a bargain stud fee) because that stallion’s reputation can be made or broken by those first few crops, and you want the best he can produce on the ground first. Conversely, I have rarely seen those stallion managers advertise that discount, it’s something you need to ask about.[/QUOTE]
Well said. Wish I had thought of it.
Wow- Chrissy- he is so cute. Now that I am back after being gone for 12 days, I will have to take some new pictures. She has grown a ton since I left!!!
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CRIKEY!!! Rendeivu…awesome baby!!!
Just got around to uploading a video clip of Peyton at around 12 days: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsyAlPBs4i0
Mine has the same personality! I will have to get video of her. I just put the two babies together today for the first time. The Cabardino filly is so independent and bossy! I can’t wait to watch them play together tomorrow!:yes:
Updated Pictures at 3 months
New pics for any of you still thinking about breeding to Cabardino. Her disposition is the best!!!
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=8836972&l=2b06e749d5&id=608605496
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=8851244&l=d06f5f9f63&id=608605496
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=8851222&l=6796dc6681&id=608605496
Cabardino is now doing the 1.35 jumpers, not the hunters anymore!
Wow…I wonder why…he makes such a beautiful hunter!!!
well he’s done the hunters and now he’s doing something else. it’s a good versatility question to answer, especially if people have questions about scope based on hunter fences. Either way his genetic material is still the same.
Wow, gorgeous gorgeous babies everyone.
I love the pics and video, I do see a similarity in the babies, some definite Cabardino genetic material.
Thanx for the update about Cabardino doing the jumpers now. This makes him even more attractive as a stallion choice for me. What a versatile stallion :yes:
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I don’t disagree with that, but I’d probably only be expecting a discount if I was bringing all the mare to the game. Or at least that’s how it plays out in the most of the TB and QH world, and I do give those stallion owners full credit for smart management of stallions. You have all the mare and you’re willing to risk your top quality mare on their juvenile stallion, then they are willing to give you a big discount or even a free breeding. There is no value in getting a book full of mediocre or unproven mares to a good stallion the first few years out (thanks to a bargain stud fee) because that stallion’s reputation can be made or broken by those first few crops, and you want the best he can produce on the ground first. Conversely, I have rarely seen those stallion managers advertise that discount, it’s something you need to ask about.[/QUOTE]
I agree with you completely. Best way to get a good price on a good sire, is to go for multiple mare discounts (if you have mares that need a similar type stallion) then book early.
And Cabardino has made the top of my list for this spring. which is a huge leap of faith for me…(not the stallion, the economy!)
Awww, I’ll miss seeing him in the Derbies!!! :sadsmile:
Here are updated p from her last outings…
[IMG]http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq74/martiare2/DSC_0660.jpg)
http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq74/martiare2/DSC_0648.jpg
http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq74/martiare2/DSC_0444.jpg
http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq74/martiare2/DSC_0653.jpg
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Yes I guess it is.
Just a personal thing I suppose, but for my money if I am going to use a juvenile sire, I want a deal on the stud fee. :yes: Otherwise I may as well go with a stallion with a proven track record of PASSING ON a good jump.[/QUOTE]
I agree the stud fee is too expensive and I don’t like the contact it is very biased toward the stallion owners. He certainly has a fantastic jump though.
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Just curious why some of those who admire Cabardino don’t use the sire who produced Cabardino, Carpaccio.
One went through Nona Garson’s sale this winter, and he had Cabardino’s cute form over the fence. plus the pretty head.
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