Can or should you feed hay with "surface mold" blown off?

We are having a terrible time with hay in the south. The weather and humidity has been so wet, that even stacked hay in hay barns are getting surface mold.
This isn’t from getting wet, or being put up wet. It’s actually in the air.

My hay man just told me hay will be very scarce next winter. I was complaining about my surface mold hay, and he told me to “brush it off” and I’d be glad to have it in the winter.

So I took my blower and blew if off of the outside of the bales…I’ll see what I have. Would soaking it before feeding help getting the mold spores off ?

Do you think it’d help to put a big fan in the barn to keep air moving. It is not an airtight barn…but hay is on pallets off the concrete.

Sounds like a hokey explanation to me, but I’m not there to see it. I have had freshly cut hay get moldy when the weather turns cool and wet shortly after baling. But it was still icky enough not to feed.

OTOH, I feed round bales that are stored outside. There is at least some degree of ick to them. I let the horses eat what they will and leave the rest, same with square bales that are marginal for some reason. I only feed stuff like this outside, never to my inside horses who don’t have the luxury of eating something else. True moldy hay goes in the manure pile.

I don’t think “blowing it off” would take care of the problem completely.

However, if it’s truly just surface mold on the outside of the bale, and the inside is still mold-free, your horses may be able to eat around the icky ends. I’d just make sure to feed extra so they’re never forced to eat any questionable portions.

I’m having a hard time getting mold-free hay in Tennessee this year, too. It’s been SO wet and humid…

Steaming would kill the mold spores. A fan in your hay barn would definitely help.

A fan or two certainly won’t hurt.

It’s just been awful getting (and keeping) completely mold-free hay this year. Hopefully you have enough to be okay with a lot of waste, e.g. allowing the horses to pick out what they think is edible and putting the rest in the compost bin. Like most people, I HATE to feed hay that’s even a little off. But, if it is questionable and that’s all you can get, make sure where you feed it has a lot of ventilation and plenty of room for the horses to sort (in other words, feed in an open location outside and remove rejected hay within a day or so).

Do you salt your hay before you stack it?

Get a bag of rock salt /water conditioner salt/solar salt, whatever its name is, or in a pinch get a bag of fine loose livestock salt (white) and salt the heck out of it. You can’t use too much. Aside from the cost factor, but it will help dessicate the hay and sift out when you feed.

We’ve used it for years and if there is a particularly wet bale, it got a bunch extra.

Whether it will help with southern-style humidity I don’t know, we’re much drier here, but it can’t hurt.

I would not use it

I had a hay guy tell me that mold was good for them because that is where they get penicillin from. Uh, no. I would not feed moldy hay but if it really is just on the outside you could try pulling the top layer off.

I still feed hay with dusty like mold, but if you can see actual discoloration or smell mold then no way. I steam hay when I can in the winter. I have noticed the gut is more tolerant of a very mild mold problem than the respiratory tract.

What I am referring to is a white “smoke” when you pat the outside of the bale before you remove the string. It is not on the inside…

Has anyone used that Hay Steamer? It sure is expensive…

I have 2 fans going 24/7 on my hay and still have that dusty surface mold within a few days of getting it in my barn.
I have noticed the hay I get is dustier than normal as soon as I buy it and I’m going weekly to get a fresh supply. And I’m using Standlee compressed bales, which I’ve never had a problem with before. The alfalfa seems to get dusty mold much quicker than the grass. I guess until we stop having 98% humidity we have to endure a little surface mold.

OP, the same thing happened to my hay earlier this year. The hay was put up dry and within a few weeks, the surface would plume dust if you smacked a bale.

Our plan was to toss out the dusty ones, round bale those for the cows, and replace them with 2nd cut hay. When we went up in the hay loft a few weeks later to pick out the dusty ones, there were hardly any dusty ones :confused: So, we ended up tossing out only about 4 bales, and left the rest to feed. Hay is in short supply right now; if I get a dusty one, I’ll soak it before feeding.

Yes, had this problem in a major way last year and if this humidity keeps up another day or two I’ll be having it again this year. Good dry hay stacked nice and kept dry getting surface mold.

I discovered in hindsight if you let the mold just sit there it will fester and grow, if you manage it you stand a chance to beat it.

What I do is use a large shop broom and aggressively beat/brush the outside of the stack while a fan is running blowing all the spores completely out of the barn. After brushing I take a leaf blower and blast the stack blowing all the dust I can off. I keep brushing and blowing until no more white smoke comes out when I pat it. I had to do this every day for almost 3 weeks last year.

If I found a bale that just refused to stop smoking, I’d pull it out and get it away from the barn.

The more air circulation you can get the better. I also discovered that it helped to be fastidiously clean about the floor. Even though my hay was stacked on pallets, any fallen chaff would mold in under 24 hours and just add to the misery, so every single time I handled hay I would use my leaf blower to blow every last little speck of fallen hay out.

I did experiment with wetting and steaming hay because it was getting painful to throw the hay out (not so much a matter of money, though that is always painful too, but a question of being able to replace what I tossed, it was a rotten year for hay - as is this year - and good quality dry hay was scarce, I was lucky to have what I did so I wasn’t giving up without a fight).

Completely submerging the hay did make it safe to eat (I’m talking hay with only the faintest poof of white smoke, any significant smoke or actual visible mold was composted immediately, well away from the barn and horses). My horses are pigs and I don’t trust them to “eat around” anything compromised. I inspected every single flake with my nose and the pat test before feeding it. Fortunately I only have two easy keepers. :lol:

When I tried steaming the hay, I was amazed at the results. Certainly the dust issue was resolved, but the steam seemed to bring back the sweet fresh smell too. The horses relished the steamed hay and I was able to safely rescue the marginal stuff (again, I was quick to toss anything significantly dusty, etc).

I self care board without electricity, so a hay steamer is just right out for me. What I did is put a few flakes into a large deep plastic garden cart/tub I have, use my propane water heater to spray the hay with scalding hot water and then cover the tub with a plastic bag and let the steam do its steamy goodness for 10 minutes. The smell was so nice I found it tempting :lol:.

Good luck. Few things are more stressful and miserable than having gone through the work and expense of putting up good hay for the year only to watch it mold away before your eyes. :no:

Hang in there, every day you stay tough and beat this nasty mold back is a day closer to better dryer weather.

Would one of the steamers they sell for clothing work if you did a flake at a time? (If you had electricity)

IF I get a bale with mold on one edge or the other, I cut off the nasty part, but that doesn’t sound doable for all-over moldiness. Here on the left coast, the hay is always dusty, but I think that’s because it’s so dry & it’s because of the dirt they pick up during baling.

I am resurrecting this thread because this has been the wettest year in Iowa and hay that was super hard to come by because of this wet year, is now moldy. I need some advice. I did some research and made my own hay steamers with a wallpaper steamer & a rolling garbage can with a seal-able lid. I steam the hay for an hour and then feed it within 24 hours. My barn smells AMAZING with this steamed hay - but part of me is still worried about feeding this hay to them because I surly don’t need a barn full of horses with respiratory issues but on the other hand, I can not just throw away thousands of dollars of hay. I must say, that I am NOT feeding hay that is completely moldy…that goes in the burn or compost pile. It is the hay that has that white mold on it when you shake it. So here’s my question - are those wallpaper steamers getting hot enough to kill the spores? It says they get to 100 degrees C which is 212 degrees Fahrenheit. I am worried for my herd so any advice would be great. thanks!

I have similar trouble storing hay in the humid Southeast. If I get the white mold ‘smoke’ I will briefly soak and rinse the hay. I put it in a big tub and agitate it with what I think is a drywall mud mixing tool – it looks like a big potato masher. then shift it to a laundry basket or other tub with holes drilled in the bottom to drain. It is messy and a pain to deal with, but hay is expensive and this is the best I can come up with. This has been going on for years, the horse is still alive and happily eats what he’s given.

I’m ambivalent on the hay steamer idea… they are expensive and water + electricity is a risk. Using hot water would be my next choice, someone upthread mentioned using a propane water heater.

Mold smoke is plaguing my hay as well. I either throw away the flake on the exposed end or pull off the offending layer before feeding + pull off any exposed edges along the flakes until I’m smelling ‘good’ hay, not that moldly smell.

I also set hay flakes out in the sun for a while before feeding – but sunny days seem to be a thing of the past lately.

This summer = more rain and humidity than I can ever remember.

Salting works great! In the wet northwest when we put up a lot of hay we would end up with some moldy bales. However, when salted between the layers, no mold at all.

I would wet it down. The real problem is them inhaling the spores. Wetting it down will stop this from happening.

I’ve been having the same problem with the hay in the bottom back corner of the stack. Making sure the airflow through there is good helps prevent that.