Can we have an adult re-rider support group?

We were making such good progress when the pone pulled up lame yesterday sigh. I had started hacking him out on real actual trails. This was a very big deal since he had gotten just a titch barn sour and my rerider nerves were preventing me from actually coping with the situation. It was driving me nuts because I believe that horses should be ridden out at least 60% of the time (some brains can’t handle it, but I find those to be the exception rather than the rule).

So he was finally hacking well away from the barn and yesterday I went to ride and the scrape on his cannon bone has suddenly become something that he cannot work with. He told me this by first waving that leg in the air madly when I was trying to pick out his other hind hoof, and then limping like he very well might die when walking back and forth.

This scrape is 1" wide and maybe…7" long? And it’s completely superficial. It took a full layer of skin as well as hair (unlike some of his other scrapes) but it’s definitely just a scrape.

He got it when down with his bad colic, and neither I nor the vet thought that it required any treatment other than furazone. sigh Vet’s coming out today to look at other horses so we’re going to have them take a look. sigh And we were making SUCH good progress. Ahhh well, time to do some work on ground manners until he stops thinking that he might die.

OneGrey, sorry about your pony. Hope his scrape heals and you can be back out and riding the great wide open!

Well, I took a bad spill today and I am hurtin.

My friend was up, the person who helped me find my horse, she’s only in town a week, and today was our first get together. I had a great ride and she said “I want to see you jump him!” and all was well until we got to the brick wall. He started to hesitate, I got ahead, and he slammed on the brakes, I went over head-first, then he kind of ran through the jump, I got caught in the stirrups, he kind of trampled me a little. Totally not his fault, I feel bad that I did that to him. I feel so stupid for doing it, and how much worse it could have been, and how sucky I ride sometimes!

I was fine, got back on and did a small crossrail 2x and then my friend took him over the brick wall for me, and did some more jumps too.

Now searching for a new helmet, though!

Oh, and adding insult to injury, I’m going to be having surgery now (crohn’s) at the end of november so I’ll be out of the saddle for like 3 months. Boo! At least it’ll be winter and I’ll be too cold to ride anyway.

Not a fab day. But…I’m fine, safe. Now thinking that a safety vest is a good idea too.

Ouch! Sorry to hear about your fall spaceytracy - ibuprofen and wine…though not together! I’ve also been thinking about a vest as I do more outside work with my guy. I’ve put it on the christmas list that my husband keeps for me grin

I’m back to riding, had a lovely hack today. Went for a brief trail ride, then into the ring for some work, then back out on another hack around the field to cool down. Pony nearly fell down at the canter because he is SO imbalanced still in the ring, which completely nearly gave me a heart attack. I did think that vest may need to get here sooner rather than later, but postponed that purchase in order to get a breastcollar (saddle sliding to the rear issues), new paddock boots (okay, mine are totally toast) and some flourescent gear so that we don’t get shot this fall.

We’re treating for ulcers and the teeth grinding is slowing down which is a good thing!

Now I’m puzzling through what I actually want to do with him. I love riding out, which makes me think that we’d be good eventers…but I despise flatwork in the ring and only do it because it’s necessary (which is one reason our dressage career ended abruptly). I’m trying to incorporate it into our outdoor hacks which makes it more palatable for me but school figures bore me to tears. And I don’t particularly like jumpers, I love finding a nice cool 8 fences in soft hunter style.

We’d be fabulous foxhunters except for the fact that the nearest hunt is an hour away, we’re still trying to find our confidence and we are trailerless. Perhaps the hunt with Hunter’s Rest will make the trailer thing a priority.

I think we’d like doing hunter paces…not sure what other events are similar that we might enjoy…Of course I’m so totally getting ahead of where we are, which is at baby green stage. LOL!

What is up with all of us risking serious injury?

I shoulda listened to my trainer when I picked out that 16’3 hand warmblood baby gelding. Only been back riding for four months after a 15 year hiatus. Dumb indeed.

Fast forward last night…

Horse doing his normal spook at the open door in the arena, scrambles, spins and me flung on top of jump/gate and hear a triple cracking sound in my back.

Barn owner and I in emergency room, x-rays and thankful for only four broken ribs. Anyone been through this type of pain? Oh, my word, can’t breathe! Nothing a good narcotic pain killer can’t handle.

United in pain and love we re-riders stand!

What is up with all of us risking serious injury?

I shoulda listened to my trainer when I picked out that 16’3 hand warmblood baby gelding. Only been back riding for four months after a 15 year hiatus. Dumb indeed.

LOL Yep. It’s called the “oh yea I can totally do this” mind, despite the fact that the body is going “erm…you DO remember that we are rusty…right”? I broke two babies after an extended period of time off and though we DID it, it was decidedly less than the safest thing I’ve ever done in the world. Or the smartest thing.

Now I’m riding an OTTB. Who is still very tracky. At least he’s sane.

What do I have an eye for? OTTBs. Just the other day I was daydreaming about renting the whole farm that’s just down the road from me and retraining OTTBs for new disciplines. You know, because I’m riding SO well now (please note, that was written with a significant amount of sarcasm)

I keep having to remind myself that yes, my riding abilities will come back but that I probably should not get too far ahead of myself.

I have a feeling that I’ll lose that battle. With myself. snort

How many times going off is one time too many?

I think I am up to lucky number seven now and re-riding 13 months.

With every fall I believe I am getting better. I will myself to gain a better seat through every hiccup, cry and prescription filled. Negative outlook, no. Guess it’s my former military way of saying no pain, no gain but now loosely applied to my hobby in horses. : )

Well, I rode my baby on Sat. he was great ! Still a bit lazy, but what a great canter it was so fun. I came back and rode my older TB. He was fine until I cantered him then he went into Lippazaner mode. I then went down the hill and was able to turn him out in the ring. He didn’t do that much and certainly looked sound.

I then rode him (the older TB) today and he did the same thing only a bit more wanting to shake his head and run ? I don’t know what is up with him, but he is an accident waiting to happen-little bugger.I’ll see if I can get him a couple of turn outs this week. I hope I can bring him back to riding without ending up in the ER. I’m actually riding two horses, wow I love having two horses especially since they both have their “issues”: young TB is lazy, older TB is crazy !I just wish they lived at the same barn.

I’m ready bring the craziness on-I would so rather have TB crazy than client crazy in my life ! I am following the sage advice of wine and advil.

We do all run the risks and take the falls, because the joys of being on horseback can’t be found anywhere else. But unfortunately, when you come back later in life, those falls are scarier. I’m still trying to rebuild my confidence from a fall I took with a horse I don’t even have anymore :wink:

Onegraypony, I bet you will love hunting. I"m looking forward to meeting you next month.

Riding in the open is one of the things that I most want to do, but it’s also the thing that scares me the most. I’m working on it, bit by bit. But I rarely have anyone who can ride out with me, and I’m not wild about going alone. And the trails we have available to my barn have been unusable since Hurricane/Tropical storm Irene. First they were flooded, then they were a sea of mud, now it’s hunting season. Oh well, hopefully we can restart our trail riding program in the spring.

OMG ballisticgirl - I’m SO sorry!

I too am wondering “how many until I die?” - in all seriousness. I’m sure its not good for my brain to keep getting knocked around. And I ALWAYS fall head first, it seems.

You are in much more pain than me, I’m so sorry. Hoping you have some good drugs and you heal soon!

Maybe they have a 2 for 1 deal on safety vests? I think we might ALL need to invest!!!

Ms. SpacyT! Yes, I wonder why I fall more in adulthood and I am riding much more than I did as a kid. Just don’t get it, I am investing so much time and energy and not getting the results. Er, the results I had hoped?

Okay…dumb question but must ask. Do you think the safety vest would truly prevent rib breaks/spinal breaks, etc?

How good are those things? I am only a jumper rider but would so invest if it would prevent needing narcotics and missed work going forward.

Ballisticgirl… I wonder the same thing. Sadly, I don’t even count the falls anymore, I lost track. I only keep track of the ones that are bad enough I can’t get back on (I have 2 since April).

I’m still doing physical therapy from my last tumble, and it irritates me that the time I am there could be spent hopefully (staying) in the saddle.

I would think so - at least cushion the blow a little, ya know? I mean, the narcotics part is ok, lol, just wish it didn’t come with an ailment!!

I posted the same thing you did when i started this thread. I just don’t see results fast enough.

A few theories:

  1. We as adults think too much, where kids just RIDE.

  2. We understand the consequence of falling, and therefore there’s always that thought in the back of our minds.

  3. Our muscles are just not as good as they used to be!!!

It seems to be a common theme with us ‘older’ riders.

LUV…bless your soul! What the hay happened to you twice this year already? I do appreciate your owning the losing count on your falls thing. I AM well aware I fall more than anyone else at my barn. This would not be the case if I would be happy on a made horse, but too late now. Anyone in the market for a cute, very athletic Zweibrucker gelding? ; )

Spacy…

Yes, we think and we process and doggoneit, we progress faster, right? Not sure what you do for a living, but I can’t turn my analysis and objective thinking, directive manner in which I function at work. I thought I was doing this horse time to escape and turn it off for a few hours. It appears I am not doing so well here and it’s all business at the barn when I’m riding. (Now in the stall, cross ties, around the grounds, I am a slobbering, carrot toting child.)

I think we need a seven step program for all of us. I DOOOO know my boyfriend and mother do not relate and have claimed me obsessive compulsive when with horses and all that comes with it.

It’s actually really funny that this is the discussion of the evening. Just this morning I was talking to my trainer about holding the record for coming off and her response was “Least you’re very good natured about it.”

The first bad fall of the year was coming off in to the rail. My green clipped a rail with her back feet when we were jumping on a diagonal, and I held on until we right at the rail. Landed head first on the rail. The worst part of this one is that it was right before a family vacation, and in the pictures I have a black eye and swollen left side of the face.

The second one was at the end of August, and the poor mare forgot she was jumping, tripped and fell, and I lawn darted on my shoulder about 10 feet away. That’s the one I’m still in PT for.

Onegraypony, I bet you will love hunting. I"m looking forward to meeting you next month.

Likewise! I really think it’s quite up my alley as well. I seriously cannot wait!

Riding in the open is one of the things that I most want to do, but it’s also the thing that scares me the most. I’m working on it, bit by bit. But I rarely have anyone who can ride out with me, and I’m not wild about going alone.

I started by hand-walking my slightly barn-sour gooberbutt until I got so bored with that that I just had to get on. It also helped that the handwalking made him quit calling out, jigging and carrying on. However, he’s not a spooky animal in the least, so it was just the barnsourness that we had to get over. Your mileage, of course, will vary. I realized that I had to get out while the ground wasn’t frozen because frozen ground hurts more :slight_smile: I also take my cell phone and have that strapped to my carcass.

And the trails we have available to my barn have been unusable since Hurricane/Tropical storm Irene. First they were flooded, then they were a sea of mud, now it’s hunting season. Oh well, hopefully we can restart our trail riding program in the spring.

Sorry about the trails, yikes! Hunting season around here is rather perilous to ride during as well. I’ve got a high viz vest, just ordered reflectors for my helmet and bridle and I have flourescent wraps as well. I also don’t venture into the woods during hunting season but will walk around the field a little bit. Sundays there’s no hunting, so we go for our long ride then!

Okay…dumb question but must ask. Do you think the safety vest would truly prevent rib breaks/spinal breaks, etc

I think it will prevent some of them, but also helps with general soreness (from what others have said). In my mind, what it will help me with is the freezing up that I tend to do NOW that I did NOT do when I was a kid, that I think causes the majority of the pain when I fall. Well, and the majority of the falls. If I think I’m invincible, I’ll probably ride like I am, and that was one of the things that helped me ride well as a kid (if that makes any sense).

I think we need a seven step program for all of us. I DOOOO know my boyfriend and mother do not relate and have claimed me obsessive compulsive when with horses and all that comes with it.

snort I remember my mother being quite aghast when I said that I would split up with my husband if he tried to make me quit riding. Luckily, he realized that, and has not tried to prevent me from doing so, and is even sitting here looking at trailers for me as I type. grin I have him trained well. It did cause the end of my first marriage. My ex-husband told me one too many times that I was talking about horses too much and off he went. Of course, there were some other factors there too, but they were all along the same lines.

We understand the consequence of falling, and therefore there’s always that thought in the back of our minds.

Control of the horribilizing in our minds is a HARD thing to manage. Today I was out in the big field, a new field for the pone and I to ride in. He kept bulging toward home and I kept getting this unwanted visual of a spin and bolt for home. I knew that if I kept thinking about it, sooner or later I was going to ride like that was going to happen and it would end up happening! That’s one of the really unfortunate things about horses - they pick up on what is in your head!!!

So I practiced redirecting my thoughts “no, we’re just going to continue walking forward and straight thank you very much pony” and sure enough, forward and straight we walked, and though he was faster heading toward the barn, he kept walking and did not break gait.

Horses are an exercise in control of the mind just like meditation is. I think that’s why I always feel SO good after I ride :slight_smile: Well that and the wine and ibuprofen :wink:

Wow! That has got to be scary going head first into a hard surface/rail/gate. Did you do okay in terms of no loss of consciousness? Both of my falls into fences I absorbed with my back after somersaulting. I wish I could say the same thing about my attitude. I nearly lose it after a bad fall and my trainer says, If your heels had been down further, you’d have stayed on. Ugh!! How do you stay on when your horse falls to the ground along with you as in your case?

I am thinking of a stickier saddle, I have a prestige and it is slick in the seat unlike my trainer’s devoucoux. I spray myself silly with tack glue and HATE the clean up afterwards.

Do you have any other tips as to how to stay in saddle when a horse gets crazy? Sit back, heels down…but I find these horses so unpredictable at times and am no soothsayer. When, when, when will the near death experiences end and the fear dissipate?

My problem is going fetal position on a horse. What I need to do is sit up and back.

I rode yesterday for the first time in 8 years (if you don’t count the ten minute bareback ride a couple weeks ago). Holy crap, I can’t walk today! How do you work through the frustration of knowing what you used to be (cool, calm, confident, could ride bareback over a 2’6" course easily) and comparing it with the flopping near-dead fish you are now? Holy hell, when the gelding I was riding picked up a nice, forward trot, I thought I was going to rattle right off! I’m starting to see why WP quarter horses have appeal, lmao. How long until I actually feel like I can handle all the basics again?

On the plus side, I did remember to check my diagonals! Granted, I probably really should have been more concerned with staying on than diagonals, but hey…

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Well, I took a bad spill today and I am hurtin.

all was well until we got to the brick wall. He started to hesitate, I got ahead, and he slammed on the brakes, I went over head-first, then he kind of ran through the jump, I got caught in the stirrups, he kind of trampled me a little.
Now searching for a new helmet, though!

Not a fab day. But…I’m fine, safe. Now thinking that a safety vest is a good idea too.[/QUOTE]

I’m very sorry to hear about your fall! Sounds nasty. I agree about the vest…maybe all of us re-riders should invest in them.

I am also a re-rider and actively looking for a new horse. All my precious safe, sane horses are now retired. I haven’t ridden except for the few times my 17 yr old mare is having a good sound day and then it is just walk and trot straight lines.
I took up riding motorcycles 5 yrs ago. I have a summer and a winter coat for that and it has some body armor in it. Back, shoulder and elbows. They are made very well and you can’t really tell the armor is there to look at them. You can feel it is there for a the first few times you wear it, but you get used to it.
I am thinking the horse world needs these. The summer one is mesh air breathing material. May be too hot for horseback riding because you aren’t going that fast, but it would be great for cool days and the regular one would be great for winter.
I just might be sporting this jacket when I get my new horse. If it can handle road rash at mock speed, it should handle a fall from a moving horse.
I haven’t seen anything like this for equestrian activities, except the vest, but that doesn’t help shoulders and elbows.