Can you help me identify this bit?

My horse is going really well in this bit, and it’s time to buy our own!

Can anyone help me pinpoint exactly what type (specific brand recommendations would be a huge plus!!) this bit is? I thought I was purchasing something exactly like it today from a lady on Marketplace, but it turns out the ring in the middle is much longer and more of an oval shape compared to what you see in the photo. Thanks in advance!

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Looks like a Neue Schule. Hard to tell shape from that photo but maybe the verbindend? If you’re looking for a deal, the Tried Equestrian got a bunch of Neue Schule bits in recently so once you figure out which model it is they might have what you’re looking for.

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Neue Schule bits are usually easy to identify because they’re stamped. But there are lots of knockoffs out there, and those can be tougher to find. The shape of this one doesn’t look like a Verbindend knock off to me. OP may be best taking the bit to a tack shop or a horse show with a lot of vendors and seeing if they can match it.

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Are there any marking stamped on the metal near the rings? Herm Sprenger and Neue Schule will both have something stamped there.

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I have that exact bit but sadly I have had it so long that I have no idea where I got it from. It works nicely however.

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Unfortunately, it’s not the same bit, but very similar. Thank you anyway!

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https://marystack.com/neue-schule-tranz-angled-lozenge-loose-ring/?sku=143837-003&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAAD_rmjlzcQFkZGDcc4o7rt1Zo7uKS&gclid=EAIaIQobChMItOjAs673iAMVTgytBh2-njQiEAQYAiABEgIBj_D_BwE ???

You’re absolutely right, it’s not the verbindend bit, and unfortunately it’s not stamped anywhere with a brand or size (or if it was, it has since faded). Unfortunately since it’s not my bit and is used for several different horses at our barn, I’m unable to take it to our local tack shop.

No stampings and no imprints :frowning: I have checked several times.

Is it a Stubben like this one:

Stubben loose ring snaffle with bean

I have a different Stubben bit that doesn’t have anything stamped on it.

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Here are a few possibilities:

https://www.doversaddlery.com/hs-cppr-plus-dbl-jnt-ls-rng-16/p/X1-010795/

https://www.doversaddlery.com/albacon-grmn-slvr-loose-ring16/p/X1-01339/

https://www.doversaddlery.com/stubben-stltec-cppr-lse-rng-16/p/X1-010432/

I have been staring at the Herm Sprenger version for a couple weeks now and think this is the closest I can get to matching the original, but won’t know for sure until I see it in person. I think the other two bits have middle pieces that are either too oval or too small, but thank you for sharing!

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Looks like the NS Starter bit in 16mm. The attachment to the lozenge is similar to the Verbindend but the overall shape is less angled.

Herm Sprenger bits typically have a stamp on them on the mounthpiece itself (either H-S or Sprenger). Then on the butt end of the mouthpiece, they’ll have an arrow to show how the bit should be placed in the horse’s mouth.

Is it this Stubben? This used to be called the “Anatomic” but they changed the name.

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If you can’t take the bit off the property, collect as much data as possible.

  • Measure length of mouthpiece.
  • Measure length of each segment.
  • Measure diameter of bit near attachment to rings, near attachment to middle portion, and in the center of the “bean.”

For photos:

  • Take photos with a lens and magnification that minimizes distortion–you’re looking for something in the vicinity of 50 mm. Default cell phone cameras tend to be pretty wide angle which is going to distort. You may have to experiment–take a photo, open it up, look at the “i” or whatever the equivalent is on your phone, and look for mm number that applies to the photo and not the lens. On my phone this is what I attempted to circle in purple highlighter (the 52 mm). The 26 mm designation is for the camera.
  • Lay the bit as flat as possible on a non-distracting surface of contrasting color (white?). Depending on the symmetry you may need to flip it to photograph the back relative to the other photo.
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