I just bought a new horse and he is a Canadian Trakehner. I know nothing about them and was wondering what is the difference between them and the German ones. I will look up his breeding and let you know his lineage but until then does anyone have any ideas?
got them: sire: Topas 2
dam: Marischa
The difference is registration. The Canadian Trakehner registry/organisation is not recognized by the German Verband - so an approved Canadian Trakehner stallion cannot produce, for example, a mare whose offspring can be ATA approved (unless that stallion is also approved ATA). In addition it is not considered an Erkend studbook by other Registries/Verbands. Obviously this is only important for breeding considerations ie for mares.
Yes, but the Canadian Trakehner Association is recognized by Agriculture Canada and is the official association for the registration of Trakehners in Canada. Their administration is overseen by the Government of Canada. The studbook may be smaller and lesser know, but by many standards certainly not a lesser studbook.
A Canadian Trakehner is a Trakehner registered with the Canadian Association…other options are ATA or the German Trak Verband…and there are probably more. I’m not a Trak expert by any means so don’t know how many international associations there are.
Some people are very particular in which studbook the horse in registered. It really is a personal preferences. Some are somewhat more particular when choosing for broodmares and stallions…but the good ones can be transferred to other books without too much trouble. It you use your horse as a riding horse, not a breeding animal, the registration certificate serves of proof of pedigree…and the specific association that issued that paper is for most not all that important.
I guess I was looking to see if there is a difference in the “type” of horse. When I tell people I bought a trakehner they all say… Wow hot. He is forward but not hot at all… In addition,.maybe are.his parents known for sporthorses? Good ar what type of discipline. We are not going to breed, I bought a gelding but just interested to learn about him. He is a really nice horse and going to be good for me.
Yes, but the Canadian Trakehner Association is recognized by Agriculture Canada and is the official association for the registration of Trakehners in Canada. Their administration is overseen by the Government of Canada.
No offense intended here, but Canadian Government/Agriculture Canada can recognize all the registries they want, but if they are the only one in the world to recognize it… There’s no point. If the mother registry of the Trakehner breed does NOT recognize the activities of CTHS… What’s the point of using that registry if you want to breed “Trakehners” ?
That being said, and just like Molly Malone said, it is only important from a breeding point (mares and stallions approvals). When you shop for a riding horse, the only important thing is to look at the individual’s qualities, regardless of the breed or registry he is registered with.
The others have it covered regarding the CTHS versus the Verband/ATA… CTHS is not “recognized” by the Verband, so it is possible (and happens frequently) that a horse (mare or stallion) is registered/approved with CTHS and is not approved by the ATA or Verband (and there are some that have been presented to the ATA, been turned down, but are approved CTHS). However, Topas is approved by both 
Not sure of the mare lines, as I don’t recognize the mare’s name, but the sire is approved. Nice line for eventing 
(on sire side). And for what it is worth - it isn’t “Canadian Trakehners” that have that rep about being hot - it is “Trakehners” in general. That repuation is just like any other reputation - not necessarily true. (I always liken that rep to that of blondes being dumb - are there some? Of course there are. Are they all like that? I don’t think so! LOL) There are plenty of sensible, sane, and not “hot” TKs out there in the world.
I am finding out that the pre-conceived notion is just that. He is not hot just forward. I have always been a Tb person but he is awesome. I was just interested to learn more about the breed and maybe his bloodlines. I know we are not in it for breeding but I would like to learn more about them. They do not seem very common around here…
He is an eventer that did fairly well with an ammy riding him and did very well in his younger years with a pro…
You may also have the option of registration with the ATA as Topas II and Marischa were ATA registered, there is a daughter listed as Mraquise and two sons by Topas II from this cross along with a number of other offspring from the other Hollenbach stallions.
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