Cane Corso moved in 3 doors down (Townhouses) am I being unreasonably concerned?

[gottagrey]

[QUOTE=AKB;7683845]
Can you make friends with the puppy now while it is young and presumably social? If the puppy gets to play with and know you and your dog now, I would expect it to greet you with a happy wagging tail when it is an adult.[/QUOTE]

I didn’t have an issue w/ the puppy when it was 3-4 months old now that its gotten bigger, I do have an issue w/ the owner letting it out with no collar or leash. Why should I have to put my dog potentially at risk because the owner won’t use a leash?

You are overreacting. You don’t even know this dog.

Exactly - which is why I would really appreciate the guy keeping it on a leash when they go outside… Everyone else has their dog on a leash so not sure why he feels he’s entitled to be above county law…

[GraceLikeRain]

I’ve interacted with a fair number at conformation events and liked their personality. I just bought a 4 yr old TB and the seller had two massive females off leash. They were incredibly respectful of us, the horses, etc. Case study of probably 8-10 dogs but overall I’ve had a really positive experience with them. It seems to be that the failure to use a leash is more of an issue than the actual breed. Even a maltese can be dangerous if not on a leash in the right circumstances.

[JanM]

I agree with Grace. It’s not the breed, but the owner’s behavior, and apparently clueless self-taught dog training. I think it will get much worse, for you and other owners, because the puppy’s owner isn’t equipped to train the dog, or keep it under control, as the law requires.

[gottagrey]

[QUOTE=Perfect10;7683895]
This. Would you be scared if it was a lab puppy?[/QUOTE]

No I wouldn’t be as concerned (i’m not scared) but as the dog matures, I’d still be irritated if the owner didn’t keep it on a leash

[Casey09]

I’d be concerned about the leash issue. It’s annoying to have an unleashed dog mess with you when you are walking a dog on a leash, and the fact that your dog is on a leash can make your dog respond aggressively to an unleashed dog that approaches. The leash law should be enforced for everyone - no matter what type of dog is involved. It makes it easier for absolutely everyone if dogs are predictably on leashes.

[vacation1]

You have a man with a giant and notoriously aggressive breed who is pursuing a fantasy of training that involves assessing his 5-month-old dog (of a giant breed, one which matures slowly) as being at an “intermediate” level of training. At this rate, the thing will be a PhD by the time it’s 2. Which will be awkward, given the owner’s a moron. Definitely a cause for big concern. If there’s a leash law, definitely bust him every single time you see it off-leash. Document - photo, video - for the HOA or police. There is no separate law for Very Special Men who own Very Special Giant Dogs. A leash won’t make it much safer - I’ve seen dogs a lot smaller than a CC pull a leash free of a dimwit owner - but it’ll be something, and it will get the animal on the official radar. That’ll help legally when it eats someone in a year or two.

The breed is a literally a huge issue. This is a giant and unfriendly breed with an asshole owner, and I cannot believe some people are so terrified of being breedist that they are giving out shitty advice as if the OP is just silly and mastiffs give kisses. Oh, wait, I do believe it. Because the giant breed in question is a pit bull cousin (yeah, mastiff blood - mixed with huge amounts of bulldog and developed to excel at a blood sport, that’s a pibble!) If this was an Irish Wolfhound, I’m pretty sure the shame/guilt police wouldn’t have shown up with sirens screaming “A Chihuahua once bit me and it was MEAN!” The CC, like the Fila or the Presa, are giant mastiff/bulldog mixes which should probably either by owned by .01% of the population or allowed to go extinct because the size and the temperament make them dangerous. More dangerous, if I dare say it, than a Cocker with a shitty personality or a Lab who remembers that single time one of his breed killed a kid and wants to relive the glory days.

And kudos to the comments about “oh, pits hunt pigs all the time.” I’m pretty sure the person who brought up hunting meant a person shooting ducks, not a person participating in the blood sport that is pig hunting. To a normal person “hunting dog” means a dog that chases, flushes or retrieves game, not one that mauls it to death.

[Sobriska]

I am not breed prejudiced. I am idiot owner prejudiced!
And yes, IMO, this guy is an idiot!
I don’t care what breed the dog is. A 5 month old puppy of ANY breed is NOT reliable off leash in public! Poor pup is probably more likely to run into the street and be squished than to bite someone, but nonetheless, the dog should be leashed!

I think OP has legit concerns. And, if I were her, I would video EVERY time I saw that dog off leash, and report it EVERY time!

I would also try to avoid walking my dog when this dog is likely to be out. I would also carry pepper spray and a bat.

And I’m sorry, but if the dog charged at me or mine, off leash, it would get sprayed or whacked.

Believe me, I don’t want to hurt any dog because of an idiot owner, but I look after me and mine first.

[Capall]

re: Diane Whipple, the woman who was killed in San Francisco, it was two full-blooded Perro de Presa Canarios that attacked her. They are also called “Canary Island Mastiffs”

[Sswor]

I think it’s the breed AND the lack of leash.

Amen, vacation1.

[Gestalt]

OP, I understand your concerns. I’m amazed by people that say things like “even a miniature poodle can be dangerous in the right circumstance”. If I had to choose between being attacked by a large breed of dog vs a small I will always take the small breed option! A cocker spaniel is going to have to work pretty hard to kill me, but any cranky dog that weighs in excess of a 100 lbs could probably take me down fairly easily.

I’m surprised that your complex doesn’t have a ban against certain dog breeds. My home owners insurance will not cover most of the larger dogs.

[LauraKY]

[QUOTE=Gestalt;7684098]
OP, I understand your concerns. I’m amazed by people that say things like “even a miniature poodle can be dangerous in the right circumstance”. If I had to choose between being attacked by a large breed of dog vs a small I will always take the small breed option! A cocker spaniel is going to have to work pretty hard to kill me, but any cranky dog that weighs in excess of a 100 lbs could probably take me down fairly easily.

I’m surprised that your complex doesn’t have a ban against certain dog breeds. My home owners insurance will not cover most of the larger dogs.[/QUOTE]

That’s the problem in a nutshell. It’s not the breed per se, but the amount of damage they can inflect if they do attack. And then you run into the whole dog owner with an inappropriate dog and insufficient training. Cane corsos can be nice dogs…in the right hands.

A jogger just died in MI. Attacked and killed by two cane corsos. They mauled him to death.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/cane-corso-dogs-maul-death-mich-jogger-owner-face-charges-article-1.1880415

[Sswor]

A pack of 25 miniature poodles couldn’t maul a jogger to death.

A dog big enough to maul an adult male human to death is a public safety hazard, I strongly believe, and should be regulated as such.

Also agree that these breeds serve no modern purpose, and the risk to the public outweighs any legitimate benefit to their existence, and they ought to be allowed to go extinct.

[asb2517]

@Sswor;7684362

A dog big enough to maul an adult male human to death is a public safety hazard, I strongly believe, and should be regulated as such.

So just to be clear…you believe that ANY dog that is big enough to potentially maul an adult needs to be regulated? Because I’m going to venture to guess that pretty much any large dog could potentially do that…or are you just breed biased?

I’m also going to have to say that a lot of breeds dogs serve no modern purpose, other than as companions, so why don’t we just let them go extinct? How many dog breeds are actually used for the purposes they were originally bred to do?

It is frustrating to me that there is so much breed bias. It’s not much different to me than being prejudiced against certain people simply because there are a lot of people like them that are bad actors.

[LauraKY]

[QUOTE=asb2517;7684423]
So just to be clear…you believe that ANY dog that is big enough to potentially maul an adult needs to be regulated? Because I’m going to venture to guess that pretty much any large dog could potentially do that…or are you just breed biased?

I’m also going to have to say that a lot of breeds dogs serve no modern purpose, other than as companions, so why don’t we just let them go extinct? How many dog breeds are actually used for the purposes they were originally bred to do?

It is frustrating to me that there is so much breed bias. It’s not much different to me than being prejudiced against certain people simply because there are a lot of people like them that are bad actors.[/QUOTE]

The collie rescue I worked with had two collies that had to be destroyed because they were very aggressive. What about Labs? They can turn on people. GSD? They used to be banned.

It’s really about the raising, the training and the breeding. Too many asshats who don’t have a clue what they are doing.

[The_Pie]

[QUOTE=Sswor;7684362]

Also agree that these breeds serve no modern purpose, and the risk to the public outweighs any legitimate benefit to their existence, and they ought to be allowed to go extinct.[/QUOTE]

You are an idiot.

[gottagrey]

The reasons why some people want to own Pits, Rots, Dobermans, CC is what perpetuates breed bias. They are popular among that mindset that wants these breeds because of their bad-ass reputation - and they want their dogs to be bad-ass - like it’s some extension of themselves. In the link LauraKY posted about the Cane Corso mauling - the owner said "everything I own are aggressive (i.e. read: don’t mess w/ me cause I’m a bad-ass) My neighbor didn’t get this dog because its a great family pet and his kids (7,5 and 4) will enjoy playing fetch, he got it because it’s a good guard/protection dog and apparently worth good money on the street so he’ll breed her.

Awhile ago some I went to take my dog for a walk, some pit bull (off leash) makes a bee-line for my dog, picked my dog up and closed my patio gate… The owner of said pit starts lecturing me about breed bias. Really buddy your dog just made a beeline for mine. Keep your dog on a leash and maybe fewer people will be biased against pits. Interesting that about 6 months later his dog was attacked by a pit mix. Both off leash. I will admit I’m a breed biased -I have breeds that I absolutely love and breeds that I don’t. I happen to prefer long haired dogs to shorthair - if that makes me an awful person sobeit.

[Lynnwood]

I wouldn’t be as concerned with the breed as with the management any dog.

There is COTHER that has several of them and they are lovely dogs who socialize with her family , clients , horses , and town. It is clearly a case just like every dog breed they are what they are made to be. Maybe she will see this thread and chime in.

[LauraKY]

I’ll readily admit that I’m way more careful around certain breeds than others. Collies I don’t worry about, actually most herding breeds I don’t worry about. Some of the others, with a history of inbreeding or breeding for aggression? I’m way more careful.

[asb2517]

[QUOTE=LauraKY;7684532]
I’ll readily admit that I’m way more careful around certain breeds than others. Collies I don’t worry about, actually most herding breeds I don’t worry about. Some of the others, with a history of inbreeding or breeding for aggression? I’m way more careful.[/QUOTE]

Me too…but that is just good sense. That doesn’t mean I want those breeds banned from any place…although it would be fantastic if idiot owners could be banned…

[GotMyPony]

[QUOTE=RacetrackReject;7683281]
Lots of pit and mastiff or pit crosses out hunting here. They mix them with curs and the like for hog dogs. I didn’t know it was thing either until I moved here.[/QUOTE]

Haha! As soon as I read about the hog dogs I had to scroll back up to confirm you were in Texas. We lived in East Texas and lots of guys had “hawg dawgs” but not pits back then - every other tough breed and mix, though (things do change). FYI, there are a lot of areas of the country where people have never heard of hog hunting…:lol: