shiloh, sounds like the MSM can be used to ‘cut’ meth and not part of the actual production process. Brake fluid I’d heard of… the acetone was a new one on me.
Acetone I suspect isn’t in the more “popular” receipes but even on a quick Google many different recipes showed up.
Nasty, nasty stuff both during the cook as well as post cook in the sales/dealing and consumption 
I used to use strong iodine solution as a hoof toughener. NO WONDER I stopped being able to find it. I had no idea. Haven’t had an issue with MSM. I have a cold this week and when I bought some Sudafed and the pharmacy was going through the screens, the pharmacist said hmm well looks like the last time you got this someone put in your middle name as your first name and your first name as your last name and something else weird. And I thought (it’s been probably at least a year) that my ID had been swiped into the computer that time. Anyway, clearly the system is working perfectly :rolleyes:. What a hassle.
Yesterday I bought 2 tubes of Tomorrow, the mastitis medication used for thrush. They needed my ID, home phone, DL#, and address for a $4 tube of antibiotics
Oh good Lord, but let’s sell unregulated pot to whoever wants it…the madness in insane.
Where was this? They’re going to get a non-negotiable NO on that and a counter full of putaways if they pull that crap on me. I have also removed my name from the local stores’ “value cards” systems. It’s no one’s business what I buy or why I am buying it. I don’t want phone calls, flyers or spam. I’ll take my chances on recalls. If everyone started refusing their personal information it would be a whole different scene at checkout. A lot of this is big retail wanting to be able to market more and in a wider area without paying for it.
I don’t buy Sudafed so can’t speak to that, but all this other stuff is a load of retail BS. I guarantee you that every kitchen and bathroom has enough stuff in it for a junkie’s cookbook.
As someone who came perilously close to flunking chemistry twice, I would just like to say that I salute the scientific ingenuity of whomever came up with so many creative uses for these everyday chemicals, and would recommend these fine inquiring minds perhaps consider a career that would use their intellect for something that won’t blow anything up.
It’s probably easier to buy meth than some of the precursors and cutting agents. I have not yet had trouble with MSM, but iodine is hard to come by in these parts.
Here’s a list of some of the ingredients used and from what common household items they can be obtained. https://www.new-hope-recovery.com/20…rystal-meth-2/
Evil Chem Prof joke - http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/up…r-problems.jpg
Yes, that was DH’s reaction. We went without washer fluid for awhile. (The store was in western NC.)
But…you COULD right? :lol: :lol:
Meth is pretty easy. Hence its proliferation. Ecstasy and LSD require more expertise. At one time someone in the MIT organic chemistry labs was a prime source of LSD in New England.
So I mentioned this subject to my teacher who has been in pharmacy work for about 15 years and she said “What?” She had not heard about MSM being placed behind the counter. Or about the nail polish. So I guess here in CA - or at least in her part - they have not “banned” those items yet. But she said she would ask her pharmacist and see what he said.
And because - sadly- every idiot can cook meth, that’s the reason most of the labs blow up. It isn’t just the instability of the ingredients it’s the cook and how careless (or high, whatever you want to call it) they are. Years ago some enterprising young things were cooking meth in the back of a double-wide (Now really that’s just asking for it as we all know how God hates a double-wide) and when it blew, it took them out (not much left), the entire residence they were in, the two trailers on either side and a chunk of the property behind. And the fire dept couldn’t get close for awhile because it burned so fiercely. Literally - there goes the neighborhood.
Gee, haven’t heard of it here unless they started since 2016. MSM was for the old guy. We have the one-step, or backpack type meth labs here, starting relatively small fires, and have had a couple of highly publicized cases where small children came into contact with things like Liquid fire drain cleaner left out in cups.
Absolutely horrible.
This thread saved me a boatload of frustration today when I went to buy MSM at Broken Horn. When I didn’t see any on the shelves, I asked, and it turned out you have to get it from Customer Service.
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