J-Lu, you may have seen the three videos CH did–about 10 mins. each–that explain the design of the Genesis Special and why she likes them. I was already leaning toward a close contact saddle and found a relatively local tack shop that was able to get me the Stubben for a 10 day trial. It’s a completely different feeling and takes some adjusting to, but I’m completely sold on them at this point. They do force the rider to find the correct balance because there’s nothing to save you if you aren’t sitting correctly. Since one of my horses is a bit on the lazy side, I also love having so little leather between my legs and his sides. However, even with the biomex seat, they aren’t exactly cushy. A few years from now, I might see if Stubben can make me the same saddle but with the patent pending old geezer super soft seat option. It will be so soft and cushy that after just a few rides, it will have totally molded to your butt and you will sink into it like your favorite old armchair. In fact, it will be such a deep seat it will require a crane to pull you out.
This may be a public forum, but “Lady Eboshi” is probably not a name her friends would recognize nor does she name them publicly. She’s just making a point, and I think it’s a valid one.
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This may be a public forum, but “Lady Eboshi” is probably not a name her friends would recognize nor does she name them publicly. She’s just making a point, and I think it’s a valid one.[/QUOTE]
Another appropriate reason to use a pseudonym, to protect the privacy and reputation of the people around you, eh? 
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Poltroon, what about the fact that CH’s name is being dragged through the mud while you and others remain safely hidden behind screen names. I find THAT deeply creepy and cowardly.[/QUOTE]
She chose to write an article that, by her own admission, needed to be checked by an editor before it went out. Unfortunately it didnt get edited enough.
She knew what she was getting into so she has no right to complain.
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J-Lu, you may have seen the three videos CH did–about 10 mins. each–that explain the design of the Genesis Special and why she likes them. I was already leaning toward a close contact saddle and found a relatively local tack shop that was able to get me the Stubben for a 10 day trial. It’s a completely different feeling and takes some adjusting to, but I’m completely sold on them at this point. They do force the rider to find the correct balance because there’s nothing to save you if you aren’t sitting correctly. Since one of my horses is a bit on the lazy side, I also love having so little leather between my legs and his sides. However, even with the biomex seat, they aren’t exactly cushy. A few years from now, I might see if Stubben can make me the same saddle but with the patent pending old geezer super soft seat option. It will be so soft and cushy that after just a few rides, it will have totally molded to your butt and you will sink into it like your favorite old armchair. In fact, it will be such a deep seat it will require a crane to pull you out.[/QUOTE]
I haven’t seen this, but I have a little video clip of me riding “before” in a very nice saddle that tended to put me in a chair seat and “after” of me riding same horse in that postage-stamp saddle. It was an education in balance and I very much get what she’s saying. Happy to send you links.
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I think CHS’s students/clinic attendees are the only ones who can answer definitively as to whether they had to ride in the saddles and if it actually cut into their lesson time. Otherwise, we are all just guessing.[/QUOTE]
I have attended a clinic as an auditor at a 2 day clinic. She did in fact have people try out the saddles. She was not selling them. As others have said they were only available used. The saddles were used in the clinic ride and for the clinic I attended one rider in particular got a very short lesson because they tried on 2 different sizes of saddles.
Sure they could have said they did not want to try but I doubt most of us would have said no. I don’t know that I would have had the guts to refuse. What would you say in a very public situation when the BNT suggested that you try out the saddle that will solve your positional faults?
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Oh, really. No one said that she stopped lessons after 15 minutes to try on saddles. But it’s practically impossible not to cut into lesson time if you’re trying saddles on most of the horses.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=suzy;7108051]This is the type of inflammatory fiction a previous poster was referring to. Where do you get this information from anyway? I have been in direct contact with someone who has ridden in several of CH’s clinics, and this is not the scenario she has witnessed.
As for CH wanting to teach the trainers to teach, it is clearly stated in one of CH’s posts, but I have neither the time nor inclination at this point to ferret it out for you.[/QUOTE]
It’s called common sense. Unless one of CH’s vast talents is magically stretching time.
Suzy, why don’t you post under your full legal name?
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Sure they could have said they did not want to try but I doubt most of us would have said no. I don’t know that I would have had the guts to refuse. What would you say in a very public situation when the BNT suggested that you try out the saddle that will solve your positional faults?[/QUOTE]
I would definitely try it but not because I don’t have the guts to refuse but because I’m there to learn and, if she’s right about it fixing my position, it’s an added bonus to my lesson. 
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Poltroon, what about the fact that CH’s name is being dragged through the mud while you and others remain safely hidden behind screen names. I find THAT deeply creepy and cowardly.[/QUOTE]
No one put a gun to her head and made her let her thoughts hang out for all the world to see under her real name, so that’s HER problem.
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It’s called common sense. Unless one of CH’s vast talents is magically stretching time.
Suzy, why don’t you post under your full legal name?[/QUOTE]
Quite a few people here know who I am. Not very hard to figure out. What about you posting under your full legal name?
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Quite a few people here know who I am. Not very hard to figure out. What about you posting under your full legal name?[/QUOTE]
Well, who are you? What is your name?
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No one put a gun to her head and made her let her thoughts hang out for all the world to see under her real name, so that’s HER problem.[/QUOTE]
If all of you who have written negative things about CH feel so secure and righteous about what you’ve written than why don’t you use your real names? No one put a gun to your heads either.
Well I didn’t have a choice since she outed me right proper by replying to my post using my full name. Tacky as all heck IMO and doesn’t endear me to her any more than her contempt for us rabid garden snails.
Paula
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If all of you who have written negative things about CH feel so secure and righteous about what you’ve written than why don’t you use your real names? No one put a gun to your heads either. ;)[/QUOTE]
GrayArabPony asked you first
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Well, who are you? What is your name?[/QUOTE]
Why in the world woul she share her name with a rabid garden snail? :lol:
Watch who you call a rabid garden snail.
Paula, you are seeming to take great delight in grabbing ahold of that phrase you read, “rabid garden snail”, grab it between your teeth and run with it with a bunch of winks and lols.
Read what Catherine wrote. She was referring to people who have been with a trainer for quite some length of time but are, from some reason, not progressing at all and in fact are moving at a snail’s pace. (picture riding dressage for 6 years and are still working on proper transitions, listening, bending, suppleness, etc.) A slowness or lack of progression is not a good thing, do you understand? If you have been training for years with an instructor, where should you be in your training? If you’re still working on, or even lacking basics at that point, I think you will agree that progress is very slow. That, and I know you know this, is what Catherine meant by that “snail’s pace” comment and you know it. She didn’t call one rider a snail, or whatever you’re finding so personally insulting.
She had some good and valid points which were quickly loss by the tone of the article, interpretations by the public, and her entering the fray during the heat of the moment.
Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya…
You killed my father, prepare to die!
Carolina, I read everything she wrote, and in fact was willing to let it be when she first “apologized”, but quickly saw from her comment replies that it was no apology at all. Rabid Garden Snail rubbed me particularly raw because it showed so much contempt for so many amateurs’ struggles.
In fact I may add RGS as an honorific (is that the word?) I mean instead of PhD, MSPH or any thing like that I think I shall heretofore be named PaulaEdwina RGS. It sounds vaguely noble doesn’t it? Like an Order of the Garter or something :lol:.
BTW this RGS effectively communicated leg yield to her draft cross today. I was so thrilled I burst into song. I rather felt like Celine Dion (It’s all coming back to me).
PaulaEdwina RGS
Point of information:
Snails are molluscs.
Invertebrates.
They don’t get rabies, a disease of mammals.
