Cautionary tale for those who keep old equipment for . . .someday . .

Two long time friends, husband and wife, decided in January that they were selling their (500 acre) farm and getting out of horses --except for his personal horse. They have been into horses as riders, trainers, and sometimes instructors for 60 years. They decided to move 2000 miles away and bought a condo near a nice boarding stable for the one remaining horse. They are both in their late 70s, no children, no relatives that live close.

Wisely they had an estate sale and sold all household property except a few things that they will take with them.

Unwisely, they held back all the horse equipment to sell at a 4-H tack sale. Of course they didn’t ask me for my opinion --or I would have suggested they put all horse equipment into the estate sale — good friend that I am, I took my pickup over to help them take: “a few things” to the tack sale where they had rented a table ----

And here’s my point. I don’t think they ever threw out anything horse related. I loaded bins of bits, 30+ bridles (not oiled or cleaned, clearly been hanging in the tack room for years), 22 saddles --a few of which, maybe 4-5 were very, very nice and high end --the rest were unusable due to age, cracked leather, no fittings, etc. A 50 gallon bucket of crops and lunge whips, old riding clothes, sheets, blankets, (not clean), bin after bin of brushes, half empty grooming products, 22 saddle racks (wall kind), five standing saddle racks, bridle racks, boxes and boxes of quilts and wraps --and saddle pads --holy cow! so many saddle pads! It took two pickup trucks fully loaded including the cabs, and one SUV also loaded to the gills --and they were still looking at stuff they would have to leave --they have until 3/31 to empty the barn that is now part of the sold property. Did I mention the number of lead ropes? Ok --you get the picture –

Now, here’s the warning part: this tack sale is huge --it is the largest I’ve ever seen --tables for venders like my friends were numbered --1 to 600. All were filled with folks selling stuff. Awesome for buyers, not so much for sellers --more of a tack exchange than a tack sale.

I helped my friends carry their loads into the tack sale, where the Mrs. started putting on price tags. Mr. started stacking saddles on top of saddles on top of saddles --remember they had rented ONE TABLE.

I had brought a dressage saddle (just one) that didn’t fit my horse --and I found a gal pal on the other side of the room who had space on her table --I put my dressage saddle there with its clearly marked price and sold it within 15 min. (Bates, adjustable tree with all parts and original paperwork from manufacturer).

Here’s my point —my friends had brought so much stuff, that it was really hard for interested people to make their way to anything without stepping over or moving a bunch of stuff.

Now the saddest part —announcement after announcement was made that venders MUST remove all unsold items at the end of the sale time. I over heard Mrs. ask Mr. what they were going to do with what was left —he said, “I guess we’ll have to burn it all.” I don’t think he was joking.

Fact is, had they started selling off, giving away, throwing away the horse stuff even as little as a year ago, they would have been able to display and sell the cream of the crop and maybe make some money. I suspect burning is a real possibility. I don’t know where they would take all that stuff to donate it —the handicapped riding programs don’t want old stuff, and I doubt they’d want that much to sort through.

If you are one of those who keeps saddles, bridles, etc because you might use them someday, think about someday —we will all be in the same situation at some point. We will have to sell, give away, or burn our favorite saddles, bridles, bits – consider finding a good place for your things before then.

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if this was the Snohomish sale, it use to be that leftovers were donated to the kids.

But unsafe, old and dirty goods are only of use to someone who wants to learn how to rehab and repair equipment and goods.

I always thought of leather goods as timeless and an investment. even when I didnt have a horse I still kept care of the leather.

Most of the things I later got rid of, I sold easily through the mega Snohomish 4H sale or gave away in good conscience .

Too bad these folks let it get away from them. It is hard to pack up your life and its disposal might sting

This hits home, being of similar age.

I am finding it difficult to even give away saddles. Not due to reluctance on my part, just no takers. And not worn out no name junk, but Stubben, Devoucoux, Jeffries, Baines, Custom, all under 10 years old, clean and ready to go with leathers, stirrups, pads and girths. If I had a horse any of them fit, I would not hesitate to use any of them today. I shipped two to a riding niece; didn’t even give her a chance to say no thanks.

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I did a major barn clean out four years ago and donated a pick up truck’s worth of horse rugs.

New rule: only keep rugs for horses that you currently own. No more than 3 for each.

Same rule for saddles. Only keep saddles that fit the horses that are currently rideable. (At one point, all eight racks in my tack room held saddles. None fit a ridable horse.)

Donated several saddles to the local riding school.

I also threw out a whole trunk full of strap goods - they were cleaned, oiled and wrapped up when the went into the trunk, but they had been in there so long I won’t trust any of it not to be dry rotted.

My little barn is much neater now, and I’m trying to control the clutter a little better.

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At a barn I used to ride at, the BO was a major tack hoarder. There were buckets of cobwebbed paddock boots “just in case” a lesson student came in wearing sneakers, ancient helmets, and pancake flat saddles with no knee rolls and seats as slippery as glass she insisted she could get thousands of dollars for because of the brands.

It’s true of all cleaning, you can’t appreciate what is worth something–or maintain and take care of what you have–if you have too much stuff, and it’s even harder for people to part with stuff that reminds them of a beloved horse, or simply was extremely costly once but is now worthless.

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I attend several tack sales each year, see this dumping of old tack all the time. Not in this quantity though! 20+ saddles!! Everything piled up on the single table, spilling out into the aisle. “Make me an offer” is repeated the entire sale time span. No one can wade thru the volume of items to see what is there! So seller takes home quite a bit.

I have been selling stuff off, had way too much, needed it to move on. Moved quite a lot, but still have a few bridles, reins left. Many driving bits. All items are clean and soft. 3 saddles and other items still to go. Many folks fingering things, admiring them, but not all are really buying. This is even when I say we can negotiate prices on everything! Still, it is much less stuff than the first sale in Jan! I have been getting 2 booths to present things better, be more visible. I think that helped sell one saddle last saturday. Very visible to look at.

Funny how one sale everyone wants “this” item. Next sale they all want “that” item. Saturday everyone wanted round skirt western saddles. I had two, sold the one pretry quickly. The second, nicer, more expensive one had a smaller seat, did not sell.

I think I must have a herd of cattle worth of leather goods that need yearly attention to stay nice. Things are kept conditioned, soft and flexible, put away. That takes time I am less willing to put in each year. So items are moving on! I can’t remember the last time I bought new leather goods, which really takes the fun out of visiting tack stores! But the old, little used stuff is better quality, does not need breaking in, when I want to use it. Sure glad not to be buying new tack!
Prices are sky high, quality is lacking when I run my hands over it.

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Yes, they would have done better to put it in the estate sale OR have a well advertised tack yard sale at their own property and take offers on everything just to get rid of it. I’ve seen people do well with that when liquidating long-standing lesson barns. Also selling things online in lots can work - take this whole pile of bridles for $50 and you can pick through and make a couple of useful ones out of it. But the fact of the matter is that old, worn out, no longer trendy stuff isn’t worth much of anything. I’m not going to pay $2 for your old, faded, frayed lead rope when I can get a new one for $5. I’d say the lead ropes, brushes, old clothes, and quilts/wraps at least are immediately trash. The older unusable saddles might sell cheaply to antique/flea market type places to be resold as decor (cut off the billets).

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Sorry for your friends @Foxglove, it must be heartbreaking & discouraging for them.
Any chance they can donate to a riding program - maybe Reins of Life in South Bend?

I see friends who have a boarding barn doing the same. Every rinkydink local tack sale, they’re sure to go & bring home yet more crapola.
Owner is widowed, 10yrs+, still hanging onto the 34’ 5h slant used when she showed w/DH.
Now used maybe 2-3X a year to haul her & a friend’s minis & carts. But she “can’t” sell because she & DH had it made custom.
As she’s gotten older it’s gotten harder for her to maneuver. Took out another trailer’s fender & crunched her own last year getting out of a parking space.
Tackroom on trailer has 1/2 dozen saddles, pads, tack & etc. sitting gathering dust. If they were pricy once, they’ve lost value by now.
Barn tackroom & 2 large outbuildings are crammed with sale “bargains” - not just owner’s, but longtime boarders who think of themselves as owners too.

I’ve never hoarded.
Up until last year I had 3 saddles:
*My 1985 Stubben that fit everything I rode until 2010. Donated to ROL in Michigan City.
*Late husband’s close contact. Had that made into a purse & wallet (thanks to COTH’s @atl_hunter link). 2 bridles went with it. Browband & bit from 1 are part of the purse.
*My current Stubben Maestoso, semi-custom from 2010
I’ll admit to “too many” saddle pads, but the count is less than a dozen.
Brushes 20+yo are still in use.
Heated buckets are 19yo, feed pans 15+ (no extras).
I do have footlockers nearing 30yo, but they hold a small amount of miscellany. Easily discarded.

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This thread is very timely, because I just finished disbursing a bunch of tack, riding clothes and boots. Some I sold on ebay, some I sold very cheaply to barn pals, and the rest I donated to the local humane society thrift store (they have an entire room for horsey items). And some stuff just got tossed into the trash bin. Looking at you, ragged tail bags and frazzled polo wraps.

What finally motivated me?

I put in my will that my show tack would go with my horse to his named beneficiary. As for the rest of all my horse-related stuff, I figured my barn buddies and riding acquaintances could just paw through it, like a giant scavenger hunt. When I shared this with one of my friends at the barn, she laughed and said, “We don’t want your crap! We have our own crap!”

Kind of put it in perspective. So now a lot of the stuff I wasn’t using, for one reason or another, has a good home where it’s appreciated. And I have enough money to pay for my next horse show and motel room!

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I saw the same at a recent tack sale. Piles of sun faded frayed nylon lead ropes, canvas blankets, greyed out fitted fleece pads, nappy fleece polos, dried out saddles with twisted trees, and old school bits. The local therapeutic group completely filled a trailer with donated items and looked overwhelmed by the piles of stuff left behind of little or no value to them.

Discouragingly, I struggled to move a number of very aggressively priced items well under 10 years old in near or near new condition at the same sale. Things like an unused rambo cooler or KK ultra bits didn’t even get a second look or people offered 50% off the already competitive pricing.

It would be nice to see more community-wide tack sales where significant steps were taken to attract buyers. The last sale the sellers literally out numbered the people who showed up to browse.

While it is disappointing to repurchase items that I have resold (e.g., sold a brand new 78" smartpak ultimate sheet at a loss. Now need another one). However, I’m over holding on to things on the “what ifs”. It is too easy for the to slip by and what is in vogue to become outdated and lose value.

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@2DogsFarm --ROL, Cheff Center, and LoveWay are not interested in old horse stuff --perhaps they could have/should have donated the few good saddles --however, at this point they are out of time and energy. I believe they thought their items would all sell at this one tack sale (I don’t think they’d ever been to one). Now they must be off the property by 3/31 --yard sale or anything similar would involve them trying to lay out all this stuff and stand around for a long day or weekend trying to sell it --hoping the weather is good so they don’t have to put it all away again. Even with me helping them, the job of loading everything took 2 hours (3 people x 2 =6 hours) —I don’t think they are up to it. I will see them Sunday and maybe they will tell me what they ended up doing --I know I’m looking at my tack room with a critical eye . …

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@fulong47: My friends are out of time and probably energy. It took us six man hours to load the stuff (3 of us, 2 hours) --for them to dig through and find something that “might” sell at an antique store isn’t going to happen. They would need to find it, clean it, and take whatever to an antique store —not a lot of them around —yard sale, same problem --set it all out, advertise, hope it doesn’t rain, and do what if the stuff doesn’t sell? Back to having to pick it all up again – I will see them on Sunday and maybe find out what they did with it all.

Yes, those were really more of general ideas for anybody who finds themselves in this situation.

I’ve never had any luck with tack sales either, as far as moving a large quantity of items. Even when I had some decent, brand name, semi trendy stuff to sell. I went in with 3 friends on a table and we might have sold 2 things total between us. The odds of the right person looking for that particular item and happening to be at that place in that moment are just so slim. You need more eyes (internet) or a longer time frame (consignment store etc) or people showing up who are actually pre-interested in your stuff (well advertised yard/barn sale).

Agree! Better planning and a backup plan …

I donate a lot of stuff to a local land preservation organization that has a big tack sale every year. I have learned that there is a lot of stuff that can’t be given away, much less sold for little $$$. The number of buyers at the tack sale has gone down every year and it was especially hard hit by COVID. But yes, selling old worn out stuff isn’t helping, and probably drives away buyers because sorting through everything looking for that 10% of “treasures” takes a lot of time.

I am currently pulling this year’s donation together, and honestly am planning to trash a lot of stuff that I would have donated before.

@Foxglove A suggestion is to load everything up NOW, take the truckloads to an online Auction site. The Auction folks will put it on pallets, take pictures, give a basic description like Misc Horse Tack, and sell it in their next sale. Auction keeps it, hopefully under cover until buyers pick it up. They send sellers the check minus comission, everything is done.

I have sold quite a few farm things the last year and a half, got them GONE. Much was husband’s “just in case or I planned to use it for …” that never happened. After years of sitting, it needed to be gone! I sell at an Auction near Grand Rapids which usually brings fairly good prices. Closed on weekends. My local online Auction sells even very nice stuff cheap, great for buyers, not so much for sellers. But is a short drive for drop-off. Look up online auctions near your area. Send me a message if you want the Auction I use. Horse stuff sells there, prices vary.

Selling this way will get everything gone from the property fast, in one trip, to let them focus on dealing with packing the clothes or house stuff for moving.

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or cut to the chase and call 1 800 gotjunk or other hauling company. If it didnt move at a tack sale it is not likely to fetch any money tht is worth the further effort

electronics can go to the county recycle or , often, office depot

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we bought some new harness from a horse rescue (501.3c) that had been donated for the tax deduction, they had no use for the harness. After buying that harness even after adding $200 to their requested price we paid a faction of its true value. They then pitched in another set of training harness for free… then asked do you need any blankets/sheets? showing us a room that had over 400 nicely stacked/clean/some new blankets and sheets… over 400, and they has less than 20 head under their care at any one time

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This thread is making me recognize the absolute avoidance method I utilize to deal with the tack and blanket monsters in the basement.

I’m not ready. Just thinking about it…shivers.

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I go through my stuff annually (give or take) and get rid of extras or stuff I didn’t/won’t use. I’ve become more and more ruthless through the years, because leather sitting around just dies anyways - might as well give it to someone to use.

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