CBD Pellets

[cnd8]

I have a horse with chronic colic and it seems to happen most often the two weeks following a hoof trimming (though he rarely acts sore afterwards). I have spent $2600 on diagnostics to identify what issue he has (rectals, bloodwork x2, gastroscopy x2, abdominal ultrasounds, abdominal radiographs, and a month of Gastrogard just in case) (Thank God for major medical coverage) and he still colics from time to time. His “episodes” come on quickly and seemingly randomly, and he starts laying down, looking at his sides, etc) Banamine settles him down within 30 minutes and/or he does work himself out of it in an hour or so if unmedicated. 4.5 weeks is the longest stretch we have been colic-free since July. We’ve assumed it is maldigestion and gas colic based on his symptoms, so he is on senior feed, Assure Guard Gold and Relyne GI, the round bale now has a Hay Chix net, and he’s being given salt as well.

I ordered CBD pellets from Hope Botanicals today to give it a shot in case there may be some sort of pain issue surrounding his feet, even though he rarely acts sore after a trim. Worth a shot. He’s a super nice horse. I want to figure it out.

What types of issues have you used CBD pellets or oils on and what were your results?

[CanteringCarrot]

I know nothing of CBD Pellets.

With all of the diagnostics you have going, have you x-rayed the actual hooves? Maybe there is something going on in them, but horse is otherwise stoic…until the colic.

[cnd8]

This is a horse that is VERY expressive! And that is an understatement. The link between hoof trimmings and the following 2 weeks or so colic has not been picked up on until this week, really. It is not necessarily within the first week after a trim, but it can also be the second week, so it doesn’t seem as if it would actually be the feet. I don’t know. It is a mystery to all vets involved and myself. Perhaps if there is a slight pain issue, and he is overreacting, he can stress himself out and cause these. ?? Hoping the CBD may help, if that is the case.

[PrincessPonies]

I give mine previcox the night before and morning of a farrier visit. I know it’s not the CBD that you’re planning to use but I give it for the same idea. Never had much of a colic issue with her but she’llnseem ever so slightly unhappy after the farrier did her hinds, only o ever noticed anything my trainer saw it twice but not normally.
I have used CBD oil for general pain management and I think going with the pellets would make life a little easier. Did notice a difference with her comfort while using it.
Hope you have some luck in figuring out what’s wrong.

[CanteringCarrot]

@cnd8

This is a horse that is VERY expressive! And that is an understatement. The link between hoof trimmings and the following 2 weeks or so colic has not been picked up on until this week, really. It is not necessarily within the first week after a trim, but it can also be the second week, so it doesn’t seem as if it would actually be the feet. I don’t know. It is a mystery to all vets involved and myself. Perhaps if there is a slight pain issue, and he is overreacting, he can stress himself out and cause these. ?? Hoping the CBD may help, if that is the case.

Hm. Interesting. I guess it is worth a try? I am not aware of any negative effects of CBD in horses, but I am also not so educated on the matter.

[JB]

@CanteringCarrot

I am not aware of any negative effects of CBD in horses, but I am also not so educated on the matter.

The issue is it’s not studied in horses. Everything that can positively affect something, can also negatively affect it under the right circumstances. There has also been some serious warnings that a lot of CBD products are not safe to use - heavy metal contamination, too much THC, and more. So it pays to do some serious research on which products you’re going to buy.

[CanteringCarrot]

@JB

The issue is it’s not studied in horses. Everything that can positively affect something, can also negatively affect it under the right circumstances. There has also been some serious warnings that a lot of CBD products are not safe to use - heavy metal contamination, too much THC, and more. So it pays to do some serious research on which products you’re going to buy.

Yes, if I were going to use CBD on anything I would certainly do more research. It’s not really a thing that has caught on here, but I’m curious about its effect on horses and certain conditions since it is something new to me. I’m not sure that I’d ever use such a product for my horses, but I’m interested in following it and seeing if any studies involving horses will be conducted.

[Fharoah]

I tried CBD oil on my horse for arthritis for a while. I stopped because it made him sleepy. I have found CBD oil with even a bit of THC in it to bring my horse through two very bad colics.

[Critter]

No comments about the CBD (I was following for my mare who is oversensitive and reactive)…but I had one horse that had semi-routine colic episodes (despite ulcer meds, vet involvement, etc.). In her case banamine also usually did the trick until one day it didn’t and her colic was so severe we had to euthanize. On the necropsy they found no evidence for colic…turns out she had acute on chronic pancreatitis. It is extremely rare in horses (probably because people assume it is a severe colic and not many get necropsies for it). They determined she had been having frequent episodes of pancreatitis. We never really sorted out why…but something to consider for a horse with routine colics.

[Taken]

I have a similar horse with chronic bloating/gas issues on CBD issues for his colic surgery recovery-- but really only to aid in reducing inflammation at the abdominal incision. I don’t think CBD (75mg 2x day) is helping his digestive issues noticeably, at least not more than his long-time combo of relyne and uckele GUT does.

Now we’re playing around with different diet changes now (did elimination diet pre-surgery, tried grain-free organic, now trying forage-free sr feed). He scoped clean, but has been treated for ulcers multiple times. Hind gut-specific supplements didn’t help us at all. LMK if you find a cure for yours!

[Lieslot]

I have a horse on CBD as well, only small dose, relaxes him for a few hours, and may be helpful in his aches, can’t be too sure.
That being said recently I started taking CBD myself for shoulder bursitis and I was surprised it takes away the pain better than Motrin, only for about 5 to 6hrs though, but there’s certainly something to it.

[Hemp]

By law we are not allowed to give horses CBD today. After reading the post here I can not believe what people are paying for these pellets most of them have next to no CBD in them. At Hemp Sense Inc in Manitoba they have CBD pellets for sell when the law allows pellets to be sold to horses. The pellets will sell for $1.00 per pound. Hemp Sense Inc also owns the patent in Canada and the USA for making Cbd Hemp pellets

[Write_amp_Ride]

I looked at the very basic Hemp Sense website and looks like they (you?) mostly sell hemp cat litter and animal bedding as of now. Neurogan makes a pelleted CBD product for horses (can’t be sold in California, though), so you claim they are violating a patent? Don’t know of other companies but I’m guessing there are more.

[Bogie]

Honestly, with CBD I would probably only by human grade from a reputable source. Even with the oil for humans the content varies considerably. I’ve considered it for a horse that has some low grade lameness to see if it would help reduce inflammation, but the “good stuff” is very expensive. My vet says there have been no equine studies done, and I"m not sure I want to spend the $$ on something not tested.

I took CBD oil for inflammation and pain after I had a bad fall where I broke several limbs. I use a CBD/THC topical for some of the long term effects of that fall. I bought most of what I used at dispensaries in California which have a very good selection of products and also read a lot of reviews before puchasing the products I bought. My own experience is that not all products that I’ve purchased work on me. I’m not sure if it’s the strain or whether the products simply don’t have much CBD in them.

[dmj]

Anecdotal evidence - bought some CBD (hemp) pellets for my semi retired gelding to help with stiffness, used as directed for a month, did nothing.

[Scribbler]

I recently tried some high quality THC oil for a medical reason. It was super effective at very low doses, like one drop under the tongue. Two drops under the tongue, though, and I was definitely buzzed in a very pleasant way. I realize THC is not CBD, though.

[Hemp]

the pellets that are on the market is pellets that are made after the hemp oil is pressed out of the seed, then that called the meal what is left over so some people are making pellets from this meal and calling them CBD pellets.the meal should be ok for the horses but FDA does not allow these products to be sold. And they is no CBD oil in the meal. Because there is no CBD in the hemp seed or hulls. Test the pellets if you think I am wrong.

[Nevada10]

I tried Hope Botanicals CBD Pellets on two of mine… I saw no change is the horses.