Celery seeds for arthritis

[Old_Mac_Donald]

Here in Aus, a lot of arthritis / joint herbal blends are made with celery seeds - yet a search of this forum (the fountain of knowledge) reveals no-one talking about it.

A Google search shows that our now-defunct version of COTH (Cyberhorse) had multiple threads related to celery seeds dating back to the early 2000s, and there are heaps of Aussie horse groups on Facey that also recommend it. Apparently the dose is 10-20g / day.

So, I’m curious if this is a “remedy” used in America / UK at all, or if it is a local oddity. The turmeric of the pre-Facey era.

Celery seeds are sold at the local Chemist Warehouse for arthritis in people, but then again they also sell sheep placentas so I’m taking that with a grain of vegetable stock.

Am I going to try it out on my horse? Absolutely. The worst it can do is turn his breath into soup, right?

[TWH_Girl]

Hmmmm, soup breath sounds pretty bad lol

I’ve never heard of celery seeds. I thought I was going out on a limb inquiring about Gonex- which is green lipped mussels - on another thread.

[Old_Mac_Donald]

GLM is pretty standard here - Technyflex, 4Cyte (the pelleted version contains GLM and Epiitalis), Joint Armour - all GLM based. Our dogs are on Pernaease which is GLM-based. One of the best doggy supplements is called Antinol which is GLM oil. Bit $$ for me though, with two big dogs and one already on Epiitalis and cartrophen.

I dunno, a nice veggie soup!! This horse has really “nice” breath, like a summer breeze over a hayfield, so a hint of carrots and celery will go nicely.

[JB]

There’s some reasonable research on celery seed extract which shows anti-inflammatory, anti-bacterial, anti-gout, and GI-protective qualities. I looked into this maybe a year or so ago out of curiosity, and couldn’t find any horse studies (no surprise there) so I have no idea how you’d try to extrapolate mice or even people to horses.

At least GLM does have a couple of decent equine studies.

I’m in the US and every now and then someone also from the US comes up with a comment about how amazing CSE is, and while I can’t say it’s snake oil, I also can’t say how useful it would be. Just like “the dose makes the poison”, so does “the dose make the remedy”

[Old_Mac_Donald]

There is one study from 2019 that found a clinical significance at 30g/day in horses:

In recent years, the sensitivity and interest of veterinary practitioners and owners both for elderly pets and for those suffering from chronic or degenerative diseases, has increased considerably. As for the horse, both the progression of age, or an intense sport activity, are accompanied by the onset of chronic arthritic forms that affect the animal welfare and significantly limit its movements. To date, the available drugs cannot eradicate the causes of these diseases, whose symptoms are usually treated with anti-inflammatory drugs. These drugs, although extremely effective, due to the side effects, can only be used for short periods of time. As an alternative to these treatments, we investigated here the use of a natural product, the extract of Indian celery seeds, that in humans is employed as a supplement with anti-inflammatory properties, for long lasting treatments of chronic osteo-arthropathies. The improvements obtained and the lack of side effects for prolonged treatments, suggest that also in the equine species the Indian celery seed extract can be successfully administered to ameliorate both well-being and quality of life of subjects suffering from chronic joint diseases.

Clinical Effects of the Extract of the Seeds of the Indian Celery—Apium graveolens—In Horses Affected by Chronic Osteoarthritis - PMC (nih.gov)

[JB]

cool, thanks!

[Old_Mac_Donald]

I gave my horse some powdered celery seeds, from the human supplement dept, whilst I wait for my order to arrive.

His breath does, indeed, now smell like soup…