Check Fugly's blog entry today (Jan 19)

[Lori_B]

I adore fugly. Adore her. And this little adventure is why.

People can be as stupid, greedy, and cruel as they like, and they only behave better when behaving badly has DIRECT and PERSONAL consequences. And being outed on Fugly, if one is of the equestrian persuasion, and the outing is entirely truthful, is a pretty good consequence.

I hope that the asshat owner and her husband are shunned by their neighbors, their kids’ classmates’ parents, the checker at KMart, and everyone else who learns of their greedy lazy feckless stupidity.

This horse is safe. Saving this horse is great, but why stop there? By outing the owner, fugly is saying to the horse owner down the road who owns a 20 year old lamish horse they don’t feel like paying to feed anymore, that doing the easy thing has the potential to be costly to them. I love this. I can’t get up early enough in the a.m. to love this enough in a given day!!!

Since there are people whose parents didn’t teach them to be responsible because it was the right thing to do, there are those we can SHAME into a more or less acceptable level of responsibility. The internet is the tool to do this. Halle-freaking-lujah.

[Lady_Counselor]

As painful as it may seem, we will NOT get people to pull their collective heads out of their collective asses unless there are consequences for their actions.

There was absolutely NO GOOD REASON for this woman to have done what she did to that horse. NONE.WHATSOEVER.

If it makes anyone else stop and think, and maybe, just maybe, do the right thing by the horse, be it euthanasia, or giving them a retirement home, than I say right on to the person for standing up publically and having the balls to put it all on the line when everyone else stands back wringing their hands and worrying about lawsuits.

[Arbitrary]

[QUOTE=amastrike;4643314]
An incentive to others to not do the same. Would YOU dump a horse at auction if you knew someone was ready to out you in the most crude, humiliating fashion as soon as they found out? Probably not.

As far as her posting personal information… it’s not like she’s rummaging through someone’s garbage to find dirt on them. She’s just posting lots of publicly available information in one location. [/QUOTE]

Yes, exactly!

Public humiliation as deterrent - same as it ever was.

[SMF11]

What LoriB and Lady Counselor said!

Danceronice, what Wendy Hsue did doesn’t have to be ILLEGAL for it to end up the subject of opinion and commentary (“if she’d like to point out what’s illegal about any of it”). Not only is Fugly educating rich owners who dump their horses to a cruel fate that there might just be consequences, she may also be educating people like you that there is a sizeable proportion of the horse world that thinks this behavior is disgusting.

[Lori_B]

Danceronice, I don’t believe that fugly has ever said that any of the behavior that she finds reprehensible is illegal. Legality is not the point, responsibility is. A lot of the worst and most harmful human behavior is in fact legal.

The idea, and Fugly has been quite clear about this, is that this horse, which cheerfully packed the owner over fences for years, was being dumped to a painful and certain death when his care became expensive and time consuming and there was no likelihood he would be able to compete again. The personal information was only supplied because if the owner has the resources to own other horses, fancy cars and lease a very expensive looking farm, she clearly had the option of taking care of Hercules and retiring him herself if she had been a responsible human being. The fact that she chose not to is clearly a choice, not something she was forced by financial circumstances to do.

Douchebag owner is welcome to do what she likes, but what she has no right to is secrecy and hypocrisy. How can it be actionable for Fugly to report the facts of this situation or any other to an interested public? Did Fugly say anything about this woman that was untrue?

And needle-happy? I don’t think so. I think Fugly holds up euthanasia as an option because it is more responsible than tossing an older horse into an auction and pretending you think they will end up in a companion home. Puh-leeze.

[ASB_Stars]

I, too, applaud the good that Fugly has done. However, I can think of at least one instance, in particular, where she supported (and reprinted) an unsubstantiated, vicious, belicose attack by a well known 501.c.3, on an individual. At the same time, this rescue was raising, and sending funds to someone with no bonafides, whatsoever, who ultimately has been shown to be an ex-con, with warrants out for his arrest, and a laundry list of illegal activities. Regardless of intent, an organization like this has a responsibility to act in a responsible manner.

Without carefully researching this individuals background, both fugly, and the 501, were acting irresponsibly, to put it mildly, but, I know for a fact that background information was forwarded to fugly, so that she could, at the very least, print a correction-- and she could not be bothered.

The same 501 currently is shown by Guidestar as not having filed with the IRS since 2007, amongst other issues that a tour around the net reveals. Why not share that news, fugly?

We have so many horses in need these days, it is depressing, and distressing, and horrifying- all at the same time. Still in all, we need to be careful where we put what few sheckels we have available. Trust, and verify.

[chaltagor]

[QUOTE=ASB Stars;4643417]

Without carefully researching this individuals background, both fugly, and the 501, were acting irresponsibly, to put it mildly, but, I know for a fact that background information was forwarded to fugly, so that she could, at the very least, print a correction-- and she could not be bothered.

The same 501 currently is shown by Guidestar as not having filed with the IRS since 2007, amongst other issues that a tour around the net reveals. Why not share that news, fugly?[/QUOTE]

WTH? This isn’t Fugly’s blog; it can’t be hard to find. Why don’t you ask these questions of her at her blog? Talk about passive-agressive. :rolleyes:

[jenm]

@cloudyandcallie;4643328

I think Fugly is great,

I’d send a contribution to defend her if she got sued.

I agree with you. She is a one-woman army crusading for horses put in difficult situations by ignorant people.

[jenm]

[QUOTE=Carolinadreamin’;4643311]

Any news on the little white donkey?[/QUOTE]

According to fugly, the lwd went to a private home.

[PineTreeFarm]

@ASB Stars;4643417

The same 501 currently is shown by Guidestar as not having filed with the IRS since 2007, amongst other issues that a tour around the net reveals. Why not share that news, fugly?

So what. USEF hasn’t filed since 2007 either according to their website. And the 2007 year didn’t have to be filed till 11/2008.

Do you have a point?

[GoForAGallop]

Just to elaborate a little more on the Ferrari issue for those who don’t know cars/didn’t get to see the forum:

Some of the earlier/less desirable Ferraris can be had for around $10k. This is NOT the case with this guy. This guy owns at least TWO Ferraris (just from his mentions on the Ferrari board) and they are NOT the cheaper models. (Yes, there are “cheap” Ferraris! :lol:)

He also mentions that he has already filled up his driveway at home, and is looking to make a spot for four to five more cars at the barn. And somehow I don’t think the rest of his collection is a set of Geo Prisms.

Which makes this case even more despicable. They are not, in any way shape or form, lacking the money it would have taken to keep this horse happy for his remaining five to ten years or so. I’m sure any one of the cars sitting in the driveway would have more than paid for it, if they had sold one.

[ASB_Stars]

[QUOTE=PineTreeFarm;4643532]
So what. USEF hasn’t filed since 2007 either according to their website. And the 2007 year didn’t have to be filed till 11/2008.

Do you have a point?[/QUOTE]

Yes. The 501 I mentioned should have filed in a timely manner.

So should USEF.

Your point?

[fernie_fox]

Great job,:D:D

I love the Fugly approach to “stupidity”.

[ASB_Stars]

[QUOTE=chaltagor;4643462]
WTH? This isn’t Fugly’s blog; it can’t be hard to find. Why don’t you ask these questions of her at her blog? Talk about passive-agressive. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

I have the information. I don’t need to find it.

Fugly was sent the information by a friend of mine, privately, to allow her the opportunity to do the right thing.

She didn’t.

And aggressive has two “g’s”, Herr Doktor. :lol:

[GoForAGallop]

Here are some pics of his cars, found quite legally on another car website that he’s part of.

Not shockingly, according to my predictions from before, I don’t see a single Geo Prism in the bunch…

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/album.php?albumid=2637

[Carolinadreamin]

ASB, why don’t you start your very own thread regarding whatever the heck you are talking about? Let’s leave this thread as is and you can take your issues elsewhere where they can be addressed on their own.

[Mara]

[QUOTE=Stellaspeed;4643348]
“I know it makes her feel all warm and fuzzy, but what did it accomplish for the horse? He’s already safe”.[/QUOTE]

I doubt that outing someone like that makes anyone feel warm and fuzzy . Trembling, nauseous fury would probably be more accurate .

Really, can you even imagine that little, self centered, walking piece of garbage as a MOTHER ??[/QUOTE]

Oh, she’s a “mother” all right. :mad:

[BuddyRoo]

The original “tracking down” motivation was to find an owner who may have LOST a horse in some sort of chain of events–at least that’s how I took it.

We’ve seen so danged much of that. I thought it would be a happy ending–like, “OMG, we’ve been looking for Tiny ever since we leased him to some jerkwad who said he died and couldn’t produce the body!!!”

-NOT- “Omg, some lady used him up and spit him out.”

I don’t think the “good” for the horse is lost in outting the asshattery that put him in the crappo situation to begin with. Maybe other horses this lady ends up with will be spared and others who’d consider doing such things will reconsider.

To me that’s good for the horse, good for horses. Win win.

[danceronice]

Actually, Fugs at one point in the comments did call it a “crime.” Dumping at auction is not against the law and morality is debatable. What people who don’t like it SHOULD do is exactly what they did–buy the horse themselves. (Though no one seems to have rushed to “save” him when he was on craigslist, for all the snarking about the ad ex post facto.)

And she does come off sounding bitchy about the thin, pretty, and wealthy. (Those are nice cars, btw. I am more a Porsche or AM fan than Ferrari, but still. In any case on that board they’re small potatoes. “Rich” is the guy who took delivery on a Veyron.)

She already had (if she hasn’t deleted the comments) a person who was TOTALLY UNRELATED to this have their real name posted in the original thread about the horse, via their work e-mail, based on the suspicion that the horse might have been hers. (It wasn’t.) One of the readers saw the name in the posts suggesting possible IDs, and apparently sent a nasty e-mail to the person’s office. Said person responded on the thread objecting to being contacted at work and accused of dumping her horse at an auction and now having her name on the thread for everyone to see. Fugly’s response was basically “Shut up, you should be glad people care, and you shouldn’t have your name on the web if you don’t want people to e-mail you.” That person did NOTHING WRONG–the horse she owned was living in her back pasture. And I wasn’t aware having your name and e-mail on a professional website was an invitation to be sent accusatory letters at work because you MIGHT have owned a horse that ended up at auction.

[Thomas_1]

Well I’m also happy to declare myself a FUgly fan.

She may well make some people feel uncomfortable but so what! Am I bovvered?!