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Try telling that to the people in New Delhi or Bombay. :lol::lol::lol:[/QUOTE]
True, but it’s a lot more natural to eat an herbivore (prey animal) than a carnivore or omnivore. (I mean, taste-wise alone, ick…)
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Try telling that to the people in New Delhi or Bombay. :lol::lol::lol:[/QUOTE]
I didn’t say everyone had to eat cow just that it is an animal that is made to eat.
mmmm lox and beagles
PS I’m not necessarily buying the story.
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mmmm lox and beagles[/QUOTE] Ten points.
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/08/25/080825fa_fact_lane?currentPage=all
Paragraph five.
All animals were eaten at one point in time.
In my horse nutrition class in college, I learned that horses store their fat as unsaturated fat while bovine store their fat as saturated fat. Unsaturated fat is much easier for humans to digest and make use of, making horse meat a much healthier meat for humans to eat.
Certain tribes in Africa hold cows in such high esteem that killing them for food is abhorrent. Some tribes will not eat cows at all while others will only eat cows after they die naturally.
Cannibalism is still prevalent in some areas of the world and is part of a ritual of respect.
Saint Bernards are raised as food in China:
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/bernard.asp
The statement that some things are ‘meant’ for food is a bit ambiguous - what makes a cow food? Because it is bred and raised specifically for that purpose. If you bred and raised dogs specifically for this purpose, what is the difference between someone that eats dog and someone that eats cow?
Cannibalism is still prevalent in some areas of the world and is part of a ritual of respect
Hence the origin of the expression “Bite Me!”
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Hence the origin of the expression “Bite Me!”[/QUOTE]
He he he - hmm…what makes you think I respect you enough, egontast?
Bite me didn’t come from cannibalism. It came from irritating trolls annoying people.
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All animals were eaten at one point in time.
In my horse nutrition class in college, I learned that horses store their fat as unsaturated fat while bovine store their fat as saturated fat. Unsaturated fat is much easier for humans to digest and make use of, making horse meat a much healthier meat for humans to eat.
Certain tribes in Africa hold cows in such high esteem that killing them for food is abhorrent. Some tribes will not eat cows at all while others will only eat cows after they die naturally.
Cannibalism is still prevalent in some areas of the world and is part of a ritual of respect.
Saint Bernards are raised as food in China:
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/bernard.asp
The statement that some things are ‘meant’ for food is a bit ambiguous - what makes a cow food? Because it is bred and raised specifically for that purpose. If you bred and raised dogs specifically for this purpose, what is the difference between someone that eats dog and someone that eats cow?[/QUOTE]
Were they raised and bred specifically for this purpose then there would not be a difference. More bang for your buck with a cow I would think. I’ve eaten horse by the way but would not knowingly eat dog. I watched a program where people were fighting for the welfare of pets in China as they were eating peoples pets. I also have seen video of a German Sheppard being slane and as the man walked up to it it was saying hello and wagging it’s tail as only a dog can then he picked up it’s hind leg and cut it to bleed out. I am aware that the slaughter of cows and pigs and whatnot isn’t pretty either but somehow I find this different. Perhaps I am wrong. My disdain for China goes beyond the treatment of dogs so perhaps that doesn’t help.
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Cannibalism is still prevalent in some areas of the world and is part of a ritual of respect.
Hence the origin of the expression “Bite Me!”[/QUOTE]
:lol: :lol: :lol: Brilliant.
Just one more reason why I HATE China
Do you have documentation to support that bit of etymology? Can you at least, please, diagram it for us? I’m not seeing the connection whereas the cannibalism-bite me path seems much more plausible. And, please, don’t bring bugs into it, they frighten me terribly and besides that’s a whole different 'ology;)
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All animals were eaten at one point in time… The statement that some things are ‘meant’ for food is a bit ambiguous - what makes a cow food? Because it is bred and raised specifically for that purpose. If you bred and raised dogs specifically for this purpose, what is the difference between someone that eats dog and someone that eats cow?[/QUOTE]
Humans domesticated cattle solely as a food source while we domesticated canines as almost exculsively as companions. Useful companions who would guard us and hunt with us, but companions. Morally, it’s hard to really justify killing anything just because we like the taste of meat, but there’s more of a problem when the animal is one that we chose long ago for its companionship skills and spent the intervening millennia grooming to enhance still further that ability to cooperate with us. It’s crueler to kill dogs because we created them as friends.
Apart from anything else, there is no practical way to keep dogs humanely while raising them for slaughter; a cow is pretty happy in a big field with other cows, but a dog needs beloved owners to be happy. I know 4H kids routinely sell their projects to slaughter, but I’m not sure we’re ready to raise meat Golden Retrievers.
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Humans domesticated cattle solely as a food source while we domesticated canines as almost exculsively as companions. Useful companions who would guard us and hunt with us, but companions. Morally, it’s hard to really justify killing anything just because we like the taste of meat, but there’s more of a problem when the animal is one that we chose long ago for its companionship skills and spent the intervening millennia grooming to enhance still further that ability to cooperate with us. It’s crueler to kill dogs because we created them as friends.
Apart from anything else, there is no practical way to keep dogs humanely while raising them for slaughter; a cow is pretty happy in a big field with other cows, but a dog needs beloved owners to be happy. I know 4H kids routinely sell their projects to slaughter, but I’m not sure we’re ready to raise meat Golden Retrievers.[/QUOTE]
That may be true of many cultures, but I’m not so sure it’s universally true that canines were domesticated exclusively as companions. For comparison, in some cultures, horses are both a source of work (transportation, recreation) as well as food (milk or meat). I don’t think the livestock/companion animal classifications are necessarily mutually exclusive or the same across all cultures.
Agree with Ajierene’s posts.
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That may be true of many cultures, but I’m not so sure it’s universally true that canines were domesticated exclusively as companions. For comparison, in some cultures, horses are both a source of work (transportation, recreation) as well as food (milk or meat). I don’t think the livestock/companion animal classifications are necessarily mutually exclusive or the same across all cultures.[/QUOTE]
Well, I didn’t claim either that it was universal or exclusive. There’s always someone who does something differently. But most dogs, in most cultures, have not been used as food. And in most cultures and in most times, livestock and companion animals are mutually exclusive terms, given the humans involved had enough money to kick the goats out of the hut.
I could not bring myself to eat dog meat and I do have concern for some of what happens over there but what also worries me is the fact that almost everything sold here is made in China. I don’t know about everyone else, but I make a concerted effort to only buy products that are NOT made in China. Even if I have to pay more for it.
We are supporting everything that China stands for by the fact that we are buying their goods. Something to think about …
Not horse-related.
Thanks,
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