Chronic Excessively Sneezing Horses - has anyone else ever heard of this?

Hello all - I’m writing as I have two horses with a peculiar problem. I’ve searched and searched the internet and haven’t come across anything like this. I’ve now been to almost a dozen vets and still have zero answers…My horses sneeze - A LOT. They do NOT cough. The only way I can describe it is to imagine a headshaker, but instead of flipping their nose, they sneeze. They have both been scoped (including a dynamic scope) and nothing abnormal was found in the upper airway including gutteral pouches. Nothing appears to be abnormal in lower airway. They have a constant bilateral serous discharge that runs quite excessively when respiration increases. In my opinion, this is likely the cause of the sneezing (I’m thinking it tickles), but no one can tell me the cause of the constant discharge. The sneezing is the same whether it is hot, cold, sunny, rainy, light, dark, spring, fall, etc. We have tried steroids - both oral and nebulized, and a handful of antihistamines including prednisolone, dex, hydroxizine, Tri-Hist and cyproheptadine. I’ve tried Aleira, Cough Free, Platinum Skin & Allergy, soaking hay, steaming hay and dry lotting. I’m even trying the Equimax protocol for headshakers, because why not. My theory is that there was some sort of mycotoxin present at our old property that is the root cause…we had a pond that was only fed by rain run-off (otherwise stagnant) and the lateral lines from our home septic ran through the pasture)…None of the horses sneezed before coming onto the property. I just finished a round of gabapentin and no change there either. The next option suggested was to maybe block the trigeminal nerve and see if that does anything in case the sneezing is caused by some sort of nerve damage. Anyways, it is just bizarre. And I’m so desperate to help my horses. I’m hoping that maybe time away from the property will eventually help as well, but in the meantime, I just thought I would reach out and see what others have to suggest.

Thank you!

Did you do any allergy testing? I think that would be a logical next step.

And if you want to try one more thing – what about a high dose of Omega 3? KER EO3 has a good ratio. Omega3 (ALA) is an anti-inflammatory in high doses, but people have found it helpful for heaves, too. Worth a try, and it will give them a great coat if nothing else.

Maybe pursue a scope with biopsies/culture by specialist. Some locations to considee include Lexington, Dallas, UC Davis, central Florida, assorted East coast equine hospitals, and veterinary universities for a high level of specialized skill.

We have one that was sneezing fairly non-stop. He just had allergy testing after two years of torment and nothing helping. Turns out he’s allergic, among other things, to one of his supplements. That has been removed and he hasn’t sneezed in a week.

There was a famous nutritionist back in 70’s who wrote many books and was considered a guru for solving many medical problems, Adelle Davis, she believed many problems were caused by deficiencies in certain vitamins and minerals and
many modern drugs just exascerbated the problem. Many drugs do deplete certain levels in the body so I would start out by building up your horses’ immunity. High quality feed and hay to start. Additional vitamin and mineral supplements especially Vitamin C and B and A to fight the irritants which may be causing the nostril drip.

Since you have 2 horses with the problem it sounds to me like a management problem. Change out the feed, change the hay, bump up nutritional supplementation and see where you are.

Do you by any chance use a fly system in your stalls? Those can cause all kinds of problems for some horses.

OP, I think you’re on the right track considering the irritant as being peculiar to your property.

Friend have me a TWH with a mild case of scratches. She provided a medicated salve prepared by her vet - no list of ingredients & she told me a refill - about 12oz - would cost $70.
Another horse in her small herd (4) also needed treatment.

I used up her goop & when scratches did not completely resolve, switched to a COTH formula of equal parts diaper ointment, triple antibiotic & athlete’s foot cream (lotrimin).
Scratches disappeared & never recurred.
Leaving me to believe the irritant was in her soil.

Sorry, no suggestions for your horses.
Hope you can give them some relief soon!

Are they stall kept? Where do you get your shavings from?

Hi there! I doubt this will be helpful but I knew a horse who was severely allergic to soy. His owner didn’t figure it out until she moved him to a property next to a field where they were combining beans. He broke out in hives due to the bean dust in the air. Many feeds have soy in them, but both horses at the same time???
You’ve done so many things to help your ponies…I’m sure you’ve turned this upside down in your head … insulation in the barn??? Something else really off the wall and not obvious??? A different oil on their halters??? I’m sorry I can’t be more helpful. I really like the poster’s idea about vitamins, esp C. Good luck!

Have you considered just trying some of the head shaker tools? Uviator mask or SunVisor … obviously you tried all the meds but maybe mask too?
I have a sneezer and headshaker… it’s the worst disease! The longer mine is protected the less he sneezes or shakes… I think the sensitivity build. anyway… just a thought. Sorry your monkeys have to go through this I hate when they are uncomfortable!

I’d start soaking your hay. Ime most sneezy horses are reacting to mould or spores. Soaking hay can help reduce that.

I’d also totally strip the loose boxes and pressure wash them if possible.

My donkey had crazy sneezing from a seasonal allergy. Zyrtec really helped. I didn’t see that on your list. My vet suggested Flonase as a back up. If it is environmental perhaps that would help?

Tried both of these…

Hay has been both soaked and steamed and it did not make a difference. Stalling does not make a difference. Both of these horses are kept out 24/7

They are not stalled, although I did try stalling one of them to see if it made a difference and used pelleted shavings. My barn is extremely well ventilated - the stalls did not have any solid walls.

I’ve tried several different feeds and I’ve tried to keep their diet as natural as possible. They have been on Omega3s (Platinum), liquid vitamin E, and the latest was the immune health program from Stride.

We have kicked the idea back and forth several times, but the vets I’ve worked with don’t seem entirely sure it will come up with a helpful result. I kind of feel like whatever they are reacting to is something that is probably not screened for in a typical allergy test. It’s just weird because I feel like most horses with respiratory allergies have them come and go, they are not constant…

What area of the country/world are you in?
How long has this been going on?
Has a thorough teeth float/check been done?
Has nose drip been cultured?
Have you tried a fly mask with nose cover?
Any air pollutants in your area?
Any other livestock/horses/chickens on same property?
Have horses been moved off the suspect property w/ pond?
Has thorough EAR check been done? for bugs, ticks etc.

You’ve probably already done this, too, but leave fly masks (for head shaking) on all of the time. Your horses live out, right? We had one head shaker who was so bad we had to leave the fly mask on because even the light of day in the barn set him off. It’d be hard to put masks on at sunrise and take them off right at sundown. He wears his mask in the winter too. Sun on snow is awful for him. Hope this might help.

Have had some success with melatonin for a headshaker we have here. It apparently has shown some respiratory benefits in humans, so maybe look into that? But that would address symptoms, not the root cause.

Have you told the vets you are working with how much this is bothering you? Because you might need to find a vet who is as bothered by it as you are, and really wants to dig down to get it sorted out. Or let the ones you are working with know that you are willing to fund a costly wild goose chase if that is where it ends up.

I am using too many words to try and say this, but they might think they are doing you a financial favor by not digging into it, but you are bothered enough by it to want it sorted it out even if it costs a bit more than an average client would want to pay. And you are willing to put money into a process that might not get you any concrete answers.

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