Chronic suspensory :(

Hi, just got bad news from the vet this morning and just looking to cry about it a little bit and any insight anyone can offer is welcome. I’ve had my horse (13 yo QH mare) for a little over a year, I spent like most of 2021 trying to diagnose her being not quite right and found that she has very bad arthritic hocks, injected those, and then later on in the fall after nerve blocks and ultrasounding discovered a very small tear in the front left high suspensory.

She wasn’t ever super noticeably lame in the front except for on certain footings, never noticed a ton of swelling or heat or anything, so the vet speculated that it was an older injury and we had no idea how old.

From Oct - Dec she stayed on 24 hr turnout “rest” and then we re-ultrasounded in December and found that the lesion was 50% healed, so the vet instructed me to start tack walking her, 3-4 days a week, 15-20 minutes at a time, straight lines and hard solid surfaces only.

About a month into that, I noticed a little bit of heat in the left front suspensory area, contacted the vet and after about a week of icing and wrapping when the heat didnt go away, I had him out for another ultrasound. He found two tiny new lesions on the suspensory in addition to the old one, that looks largely unchanged :skull:

I’m definitely going to move forward with shockwave therapy, he said that she’s not really a candidate for stem cell because the tears are just too small.

He also said that I need to start restricting her turnout, which is really stressing me out. She’s been on 24 hr turnout since I bought her, and with her hocks as bad as they are I think that’s definitely best. I’ve only had to keep her in a few times since I’ve had her, but she definitely reacted with a lot of stress and anxiety each of those times. I’m sure once she gets on a routine of whatever stall situation we figure out she’ll do better but it’s the process of figuring out that routine that’s going to be difficult. I still have to talk to my BO, who I’m sure will work with me on figuring something out for her, but whatever it is it’s going to be difficult and expensive for me.

Plus I’m also just confused about why her turnout has to be restricted now when the only thing that’s changed between the last ultrasound and this one was the tack walking! The vet seemed to think that the controlled walking wouldn’t have done this, and she must’ve done something in turnout instead. But I know that she does have a lot of compensatory movement from her hocks, and the right hock is the worse one, so it would make sense to me that the riding put additional stress on the front left suspensory - even just at the walk.

The vet said ideally I would keep her in and only turn her out for 2 or 3 hours a day for a couple of months… I was like “ok so what if I can’t do that” lol and he said at least try to keep her in at night and turn her out daytime only. This is probably doable but I still have to talk to my BO.

I’m obviously going to do whatever is best for her but I’m just really stressed out about how I’m going to make it all work. Running out of money and hope that I’ll ever have the horse I thought I was getting when I bought her :frowning:

Dang. That’s a blow to find two new tears. So sorry.

It’s been a long time, but the suspensory injuries I have been exposed to did require stall rest.

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Do you know how your horse did thé first injury? Maybe compensating from hock arthritis. Unfortunatly thé best IS stall reste and controled exercises. It also dépends if it IS a Big injury. How long did your vet told you your horse should have of stall rest?

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I’m sorry. Chronic suspensories are very hard. It seems like what you’re doing now isn’t working, and the vet is proposing a more conservative treatment plan. That seems like a reasonable approach if you can do it. Rely on drugs to get you through the complete stall rest period, and to keep antics to a minimum during hand walking. I’d probably talk with the vet about not limiting hand walking time at a compromise, so you can manage the hocks by getting her out to walk multiple times a day without excess risk of a major setback.

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I don’t know but I suspect that was how. The original injury was very tiny, and the new ones are also tiny but obviously the combination of the three is more significant. “Moth eaten” is the word he used to describe it :weary:

He’s not really recommending full stall rest… just restricted turnout, basically indefinitely until we can check it again and see some improvement - so a couple of months to start.

I don’t think hand walking is really going to be an option at this barn, and I live about 45 minutes away so I can only go out there once a day. Really not sure what i’m going to do about this honestly lol.

So I guess I’m the only one that thinks riding her that soon could be the main reason for the new tears? It just seems logical to me - she was fine and healing well on 24 hr turnout for 3 months, and then as soon as I started riding her again she got worse. I know that now we’re dealing with a different level of injury so restricting her turnout is probably necessary but… still!!!

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Got photos of the feet?

She could have done that reinjury slipping on ice, or one particularly rowdy bucking fit with her friends. I highly doubt it was the riding.

Can you pay someone to handwalk her in the AM?

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What about just a smaller turnout area? This is what my vet usually recommends, a small pen where they can still move a little (especially for arthritic ones) but can’t work up a head of steam. This can often help them stay saner, so you don’t have to wrestle a dragon to handwalk, risking aggravating injury. Vet says he also usually sees better prognosis long term this way, as they keep a little motion as they heal & explosions are much less likely.

Just a thought, if you could make a panel pen or something like that to get a happy medium. My sympathies, restricting horses really sucks, I always wish we could just explain it to them!

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What Wildlifer said… I rehabbed my guy with a stem-celled stifle in a very small paddock–out in the fresh air with his buddies around him, enough room to putter about, but not enough room to get stupid. It kept us both sane and cut down on the risky and frisky hand walking. I divided off his regular turnout with step in posts and electric tape fence, so it was pretty easy and cheap to do.

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I will third the small paddock idea. When my horse needed to have very restricted activity, my wonderful BO built a small paddock for him. (Electric tape - we called it the Velociraptor Paddock :crazy_face:) There was no way he would tolerate stall rest when all the other horses were out. We also used some chemicals to keep him quiet in the earlier stages. The closer you can stay to her normal routine while still restricting her activity the better.

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What footing are you riding her on? Any form of deep footing could have easily caused the new injuries. I was allowed to ride my suspensory horse instead of hand walking and he recovered really well. About a year after he reinjured it back to the beginning out in a flat turnout with one old pasture buddy. It is also possible that your horse did something in the field. The way my vet explained it was that my horse was at risk of reinjury and could have done it just rolling and getting up or running around or twisting or pretty much anything. If your barn doesn’t do stall board where some of the horses are in half the day out half the day it might be worth it to move. I find horses really don’t mind their stalls when all of their buddies come in at the same time.

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Yah that’s why I was very concerned about the vets suggestion to keep her in and only turn out for a few hours a day…. The rest of the horses on “stall board” are allowed to come in and out of their stalls all they want except during meal times so she could definitely be left alone.

BO is thinking about what we can do and going to get back to me. There are a couple options for putting her solo in a smaller paddock so hopefully we can do something like that….Thanks for all the suggestions!

That suggestion doesn’t make much sense to me. IME horses are way less likely to gallop around like idiots on 24/7 turnout than when they only get out a couple hours a day. Plus if all the other horses in the barn are coming and going, she will probably be spinning around in her stall. It seems like a weird compromise between stall rest and full turnout that isn’t likely to be as good as either.

Sounds like she has a paddock off her stall? Another vote for allowing her free access to a small area out there, using corral panels or electric tape.

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That’s great your barn is working on options s smaller paddock could be great. I will add shockwave really seemed to help if you have the option to add that.

She is on pasture board and all the stalls are full with the exception of one stall that’s available for all the pasture board horses to use as needed….So that’s why it’s up in the air what we’re going to be able to do.

@stargzng386 yes I’m planning on doing shockwave!

With her age, and an injury that is compounding, I would test for Cushing’s.

I agree that a previously full-turnout horse is unlikely to be sane with 2-3 hours of turnout. If she’s quiet in full time turnout in a smaller paddock area, that’s WAY better than her running around for the first part of every turnout, and WAY better than getting anxious and upset in her even smaller stall.

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I have had good luck w anicell when a horse did a couple Soft tissue injuries in the same general area. It’s a stem cell treatment that goes in the general area after shockwave. I would suggest asking your vet about it. I think it’s fairly new

Can your horse live on trazadone for a few months to keep her tame for whatever turnout or stall situation you decide on? Seems to help. My injured ones get it and have half day turnout usually. It makes a big difference. Will your barn owner be willing to add it to her food? I used a coffee grinder to crush the pills for breakfast and dinner.

Ok update! She will be kept in a stall overnight and turned out in basically the back half of her normal pasture cut off from the other horses but right adjacent to them during the day. I think this is the best scenario that we can make work at the barn right now, and hopefully she tolerates being in a stall once she gets into her routine with it.

I think I’m going to go ahead and do a course of Nexium treatment for potential ulcers while we’re transitioning through this as well just to be safe. I’m hoping we can avoid sedating her as long as she has enough hay in front of her!!

Interesting point… I wouldn’t say she has any of the other typical symptoms of Cushing’s, is the test relatively easy to do? I know that I’ve heard it can be hard to diagnose them if it’s too early on…

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I’d second the cushings aspect, it can really impact non-healing in soft tissue.

Would still think you should post pictures of the feet. Chronic suspensories seem to have a trim component in my experience.

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sometimes this is the only symptom of early PPID

The TRH Stim test is easy, and the reason you want that test, this time of year, is it’s much better at finding earlier PPID, well before the ACTH test will pick it up .

Equine Pituitary Pars Intermedia Dysfunction / Cushing’s Testing | Cornell University College of Veterinary Medicine

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