"Color pros" -- Question about Dun coloring

[darkmoonlady]

It could be countershading from sooty, see this example if you scroll down a bit on this page and see an Arabian named Cooper who even has leg barring. Granted he is a bay but sooty can do odd things.

http://www.whitehorseproductions.com/ecg_basics4.html

Looking at the offspring on the stallions pages I see no dun foals, but I do see wild bay foals. Only a DNA test will know for sure.

Here is a chestnut on the top of this page with sooty countershading that looks like dun but isn’t.
http://www.horseforum.com/horse-colors-genetics/difference-between-sooty-dun-153501/

[aurum]

FS Don’t Worry has a lot of Dun offspring in Germany, it is just not named Dun due to our color description problems!

[TaliaCristianna]

[QUOTE=JoZ;6940325]
Show me a chestnut with a stripe like this. I think those of you who are arguing are not looking at the pictures. Not to mention arguing with people who know the horse. But carry on.[/QUOTE]

I looked at ALL of his photos on his web page, I also looked at his videos. I am still not convinced.

I can’t see the photo you linked to, but here are some excellent chestnut countershading examples:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/bronyfelin-ponies/guessthecolour.jpg
http://www.duncentralstation.com/lookalike/CincodeMyia-dorsal.jpg
http://home.planet.nl/~vanve006/Lieke/26.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQeKkN3RW3cuXiIJXjdT5S24mQ61upuHHt5pahsoq_vXkJ2WnFC

I could believe he is a minimal dun if we were looking at phenotype alone - however his questionable dun phenotype combined with the fact that he has no obvious dun foals makes an incredibly strong case for him NOT being dun. He should be producing 50% dun foals. That’s what heterozygous dun stallions do. Show me a truly obvious dun foal by him out of an obviously non-dun mare and I might reconsider.

It is not unheard of for a stallion (or any other horse) to be advertised as the wrong color. I can link to a sooty chestnut “palomino” KWPN stallion and several dark brown “black” stallions. More than a few buckskin “duns” too. These aren’t backyard breeder stallions either - they are quite well known/successful and their advertised color is widely accepted by their fans - yet still genetically incorrect.