Colored hunters/jumpers

During WWI and WWII horses were used as Calvary and to pull artillery. Bigger horses, like the warmbloods that would eventually become the sport horses in the eq ring, were better able to do this work. Grey/ white horses were not suitable as they could be more easily spotted by the enemy. This left a higher proportion of grey genetics in these horses than would have otherwise been present. You also see this phenomenon in Irish Draught horses, perhaps even more clearly because their size, athleticism, and the fact that Ireland was undisturbed and thus able to continue breeding (the grey horses not drafted for the war).

I believe that a nice dark bay with some chrome is still the most desirable color trend. Colors, like pinto and Appaloosa, are considered “non traditional” and unless the horse is fancy enough to win as a chestnut, the coat pattern isn’t going to do it any favors. I haven’t noticed any prejudice against them myself though. I had an Appaloosa/POA large pony hunter when I was a kid, and if we got 8 spots we got a ribbon.

If you like a loud colored horse, have one! Just remember you have to get any white WHITE if you’re going to show!

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Wow, that boy cracks his back like nobody’s business! He was giving the auction rider a good jostle on some of those fences. Definitely too fancy for me!

I bought my first Knabstrupper broodmare last year. I’m looking forward to breeding her this year and will be keeping the foal. I had nothing but chestnuts for years. I’m excited for bling and to help promote the breed.

I always remember Masquerade, the pinto hunter. Lovely horse.

This horse is a Paint? What’s his breeding?

Not a Paint (APHA), looks like it’s a pinto Swedish WB based on the link posted in the comments.

Found a horse with details that match on HorseTelex. Registered Swedish Warmblood. Sired by As De Thurin (Selle Francais), dam is by Anart (Swedish). The colour comes from the damline - it looks like they’ve traced it back to a dutch ancestor in the 70s though the pedigree stops there so where the colour originated from is anyone’s guess.

I wish the author of the article had not perpetuated the idea that all pintos are Paints.

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Not a paint then

I have a good friend who is about a month out from welcoming her mare’s first foal out of this Perlino Czech Warmblood: https://www.goldenedgesporthorses.com/sagar

She is so excited for her colorful HJ prospect!

I wish there were some updated photos or videos on that Perlino stallion. It looks like everything on their site and youtube is from 2009.

I was curious about where the color came from and it can be traced back to Samber in his pedigree, which is also where Art Deco and Sempatico get their color.

When her mare foals out, I can give you an updated photo of one of his offspring! haha. I’ll ask her if she has anything new from when she was researching stallions last year.

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…and terrible news through facebook that this stallion passed suddenly this week. ;(

Oh no! Sorry to hear that.

It’s difficult to find APHA and ApHC horses in the hunters due to just a fundamental difference in breeding versus the more traditional hunter “type”. What APHA and ApHC value in movement (and breed towards) is very different from what will go win a hunter class.

There definitely ARE colored horses that can go out and win in H/J rings, but they’re uncommon at the “serious” levels and they are likely to have found themselves there after “failing” at a breed show level. I know with APHA, a majority of people putting horses over fences is an add on to the all around folks, or it’s a second career for horses who can’t win the rail classes. Jumpers are slightly easier to find, since there is no penalty for not making the stride.

Unfortunately, to produce colored hunter/jumper horses - you almost need to find a small breeder focused on the task. In addition to quality horses able to win at the appropriate levels, you have to find lines that contain white spotting genes - and in many places, they’ve been bred out as “undesirable”.

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That is super sad! 😭😭

I leased a leopard appy as a teenager. Incredible jumper like a lot of appy are. Very smart and very particular about things. A substitute instructor once got frustrated with me when I struggled to pilot him through a gymnastic a couple times in a row and told me to let her try. The rest of the class froze as she circled towards the gymnastic and he unceremoniously dumped her. On our first foray into dressage at an on farm schooling show, the judge noted that he was nice but his color was a bit loud. Cue all my smart aleck teen friends pantomiming that they couldn’t hear each other when I walked by with my horse. :cool:

Fast forward 25 years and my daughter now rides what looks like a miniature version of my beloved appy. Also a very good jumper. Pins well in the locals but really isn’t typy enough to be competitive in the A shows. I think Arelle is correct in her assessment about purpose-bred movement/conformation differences. It’s nice to see the splashes of color becoming a more common sight, though!