Colour question - blue eyes

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The Paint stallion Gamblin Man is an example of a pretty wildly marked splash white.[/QUOTE]

Gambling Man is the grandsire of my paint filly I had posted a pic of above.

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Gambling Man is the grandsire of my paint filly I had posted a pic of above.[/QUOTE]

Shes a beauty…but then I really like blue eyed buckskins. Got one foundation QH that is buckskin with blues…one totally and one about 7/8 blue. Sire was paly without any blues but big blaze and three stockings…didn’t know much about Paint patterns back then. Dam is a black…don’t know what her markings are but guessing some hints of splash…do know she doesn’t have blue eyes. This colts sire did sire several other foals with blue eyes although he didn’t have them himself…two out of a Mr Gunsmoke daughter (Gunsmokes are well known for splash and sabino cropouts with plenty of blue eyes showing up). Don’t know how to post photos here or would put some up of him.

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Don’t know how to post photos here or would put some up of him.[/QUOTE]

If you have them uploaded somewhere like photobucket, tiny pic etc you just post the link here. :slight_smile:

We have a black bay pony by Makuba out of our Sleight of Hand Welsh mare that has 2 blue eyes. He has a blaze but it does NOT come even close to his eyes and he also has 4 white stockings.

colored - thanks, didn’t think to look there for a picture! See, he’s another one that doesn’t really dis/prove either of our theories LOL He’s obviously Splash as well as Frame, and may well be Sabino as well. You’re right that so many Paints/pintos have multiple patterns, which makes it really difficult to decide what a pattern can/does or can’t/doesn’t do.

crestline - your boy is absolutely Splash with that face and those eyes :yes:

Whether Frame exists in a Warmblood depends on your definition of “warmblood”. I am not convinced that Sempatico isn’t a Frame carrier, but he’s never been tested. Many of his kids just have a look to their spots that is just…odd for it not to be Frame. But, neither he, nor any kids I’ve seen, are blatant about it.

But even so, it exists in a few TB lines, and now that Gwen of Gestuet Falkenhorst has Letter of Marque approved with VZAP, there will no doubt be some very obviously Frame WB foals on the ground in the near future :slight_smile:

Hello - new to this forum - I ran across it through a google search while researching genetics of blue-eyed horses. I have a blue-eyed horse who has to be the most minimally expressed splash or overo ever…

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o40/TKNoland/Blue3-92807.jpg

Her sire was a B/W tobiano named War Hulk and her dam was a solid sorrel AQHA mare - neither parent had blue eyes or had ever produced blue eyes - go figure.

Blue has a small star and right front fetlock white, but no other markings at all.

our bay sabino TB stallion with 2 brown eyes + chestnut sabino TB mare w/ 2 brown eyes = white filly with one blue and one brown eye. same stallion plus black splash marked mare with 2 brown eyes = white colt with one blue and one brown eye. That white colt bred to a black/bay Appy mare with 2 brown eyes = white filly with 2 blue eyes. Go figure.

TKNoland, that is really different looking! I haven’t seen a horse that had blue eyes and not alot of white before!

I can go you one better!

This face
http://morgancolors.com/gsvrembrandteye.jpg
is on this body
http://morgancolors.com/gsvrembrandtbody.jpg

Not a speck of white anywhere LOL

And yes, for those who have been following lately, it’s a Morgan :lol:

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My daughters paint filly has blue eyes. She is a buckskin tobiano. Her sire is a perlino tobiano (blue eyes) and her dam was a solid bay paint with one blue eye and one brown eye.

Luna’s skin on her face is dark, and she has black eye liner so no pig-eye look. Not the greatest pic due to lighting (which makes her look more palomino than buckin), but this is her.
http://i52.tinypic.com/v8mtmx.jpg[/QUOTE]

The blue eyes of the perlino sire has nothing to do with the blue that non-double dilutes have (unless he also has splash white or frame genetics). The blue of the double dilutes is an effect of the double cream gene.

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Color is a strange thing, yes? I have an Oldenburg foal–from a long line of warmbloods (no paints). Mother has a big, wide blaze. Foal from this mare and a dark bay stallion with no white. Foal has no blaze, a white chin, white upper eyelashes on the left eye and distinct/obvious spots of blue in both eyes. Interesting combo to say the least. Luckily, I like blue eyes and think it’s cute.[/QUOTE]

The big wide blaze in the dam is the clue…she’s likely a minimal splash white (any leg white?)