Oh he’s cute! He’s got an interesting pedigree. I like a lot of the names there! Hat tip to having basically the progenitor of the Holsteiner C-line (Cor de la Bryere) and I really love Diplomat (old D names). He looks like a lovely, lovely guy! Congratulations!
It was really interesting looking at non Tb’s and trying to figure out the pedigrees. I am very lucky to have great friends who know more a lot abd are patient and willing to help me learn.
I knew about Cor de la Bryere and Diplomat so seeing his pedigree with them made me think it was possibly good.
His brain and careful front end are what’s caused me to buy him. He’s a nice boy and I’ve connected to his breeders (I need to learn way more German) and the current owner of his dam. I’ve seen lots of snippets and initially misread his papers and thought her was by Escudo II. I watched the amazing videos of him. But the re read and was truly impressed with the jump on his actual sire.
He’s got quite a trip starting Friday and it’ll be 8 days before we pick him up. Fingers crossed out goes well. This is really nerve wracking.
Emily
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That wait is going to feel like it’s a lifetime if I had to guess! But he’s a darling guy - clearly talented under saddle, with a really lovely pedigree as well. What a phenomenal find for you!
I love his sire. They can jump and they have brains. I think you should have a very nice horse on the way to you if he lives up to his “papers”. Many people say “Full” xyz when there is no xx for quite a few generations. So many breeders cross Warmbloods with TBs and thus, end up with a bit lighter animal. When I see ads with “Full”, followed by the breed, I assume both parents are WBs and that one isn’t a TB. If that makes sense.
The wait to get him here is nothing. We first inquired on him in mid December and right after we decided to send my English friend to ride him the owner had to go on a 10 day vacation, that had been planned. So the ride wasn’t until 1/8. Then it took forever to get the vetting done. Then there were follow up questions and requests, then we had to wait for the blood work to ship slowly as the vet in England disagreed with essentially everyone, and refused to put the blood in a fed ex box to go to the lab, so he could have been coming home this Saturday but the slow bloods pushed us to next Saturday. I’m at the point where I am fine so long as he arrives safe and sound.
Em
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He’s lovely! Congratulations on finding such a gem!
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since I breed for eventing, I refer to horses as “straight or full WB” when there is no discernible TB ancestry… I have 2 such mares at the moment, and am hunting stallions who at straight or mostly TB…!
Jennifer
Wow, he’s lovely! 
Seems very rideable, and clearly talent and scope to spare, what a great find!
The “E line” Hanoverians are known for jumping ability – and intelligence. I bred my eventing mare to one (Escudo 2) for this reason, and the resulting mare is certainly typical of what the E boys produce, they have a very characteristic tidy jump with fantastic knees, tending to be very rideable in between the jumps as well. They are smart, though – and do not tolerate sloppy or bad riding - but you have NOTHING to worry about 
You’ll have to keep us posted! Best of luck with him, I predict you will have a blast.
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This is kind of surreal getting to talk about him because I am just sharing bits and pieces on various online places. Like my core warmblood advisor friends on Facebook were told by private message. I want to say more but 6 days in transit to the airport, then a flight from Amsterdam, then the blood testing in the USA. I am trying to keep a lid on myself but I just want to scream it from the roof tops. Not quite yet though.
I bought his custom saddle as well so I’m hoping it works for me a bit. It’s an Equiline Dynamic, which looks comfy and turns out I got it for far less than it’s worth and it’s flockable. So if it doesn’t feel great I’ll send It promptly to Wellington on consignment.
I’m really nervous/excited and expecting to have to eat a bit of crow because I haven’t exactly been known for singing the praises of warmbloods. Sooooo we’re chalking this up to a growth experience. Humble pie is fine with me.
And the OTTB side is thrilled because there’s no way in six lifetimes (or more) that I could have paid what I did for a horse like this (even just on paper) in the US. Let alone with his jump and brain.
Let’s hope I can ride him. LOL.
Oh… if anyone has a subscription to Clip My Horse you can see videos of his full brother, “Electric Kid” ridden by Armin Becherer.
I’m preferential to my horse but he’s a nice type also.
Em
Nice horse, really lovely boy and congrats on a great purchase. Here’s hoping you have a wonderful journey with him.
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I’m hard pressed to decide which I find more endearing: his ears, or that tongue!
Have you looked up his dam on horsetelex? I just did a search and wow does she have some interesting (and accomplished!) foals!
https://www.horsetelex.nl/horses/pedigree/352780/sly-kid-ii If you hadn’t looked at her there already.
Oh I am a research fiend.
She’s a lovely mare and I connected with her current owner and also the breeder of Cudo. (2 different people)
Here’s his mom with her 2014 foal (I think) and a foal she adopted as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLJVMUB5CfA
I have watched the footage I can find of all her foals and I think Cudo is probably the nicest. (Not biased at all)
Here’s his full brother when a 4 year old free jumping:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8MeWjUJ0S4
Em
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A full Warmblood would be one that has completed a large meal? So he is full?
Sorry, I couldn’t resist…
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I think it’s been discussed many times on this board… but do you think you get a better end result using a quality old fashioned Warmblood mare with a nice TB stallion vs a nice TB mare with a Warmblood stallion?
I’ve got a lovely young Oldenburg mare at home with no full TB until her 4th and 5th generation. Love everything about her… she’s a very very sweet and talented girl, except that it would be nice if she was a little more forward and refined. The idea of breeding her to a nice TB in a few years is really appealing. If baby got her temperment, but some key TB attributes.
I’ve known a few true TB x Warmblood crosses that were challenging rides… but most had TB dams that were tricky.
VAHorseMom… For eventing, I think you can’t beat a TB mare line for UL breeding. The damline is where (jmho) the endurance and hardiness come from. Probably if you want an easier keeper with a more phlegmatic disposition, a warmblood dam would be preferable. These foals will be aimed more at the amateur market. I have a TB mare and her daughters (ISH and Holsteiner x and Trak x) to produce horses for myself to ride just in case I want to go past Prelim again someday!
I find it infinitely preferable to avoid breeding ‘tricky’ mares. a uterus does not a broodmare make.
Jennifer
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Thanks for sharing that perspective Thirdcharm.
That’s really neat you have multiple daughters from your special TB mare from different crosses. Must give you great insight as to exactly what that damline brought to the picture.
It means none of that dastardly TB lineage that one can discern… Nice pedigree on your new boy. Have fun!
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