Hello, I have been feeding triple crown30 (1.5 lbs from triple crown rep) since January. I add 1.5/2 lbs lbs of alfalfa pellets, tablespoon of magnesium vit e and 1 cup of flax seed. He gets free choice Timothy orchard fescue mix not tested hay,no pasture. He is 3. I have been looking into adding soybean meal in place of alfalfa pellets and adding Timothy pellets if I need to. While looking into it, I was told I feed inflammatory diet by feeding triple crown30 being it contains wheat middlings. That I should stop it all, only soybean meal1-2 lbs with4-6 lbs of alfalfa pellets for a year I believe they said as like a detox of being on commercial feed, then add in a vitamin mineral such as KISS,Vermont blend, California trace if u feel u have to and can drop soybean meal then. So naturally my brain is on overdrive like should do this! Is triple crown30 bad! What about horse getting essential minerals over that year!
TC30 is great. Your diet sounds just fine though I would probably switch that horse to TC Senior 5-6 lbs a day, and eliminate the rest.
How come u day feed senior instead?
You’ve been “hit” by one of the fanatics who think every single horse needs to be fed as if they are wildly insulin resistant.
They can’t seem to accept the fact that 1000s and 1000s of horses on diets just like that are thriving. Feet and all.
If your horse is in good weight, has good feed, isn’t dealing with skin or energy issues, then you’re fine.
TC 30 any ever ration balancer is providing more overall nutrition than any of the v/m supplements listed, as good as they are. They simply are not broad spectrum. They are excellent for a lot of things. I know of many people who feed a 1/2 serving of CT in addition to a ration balancer, or a lower proper feeding amount of a regular feed, because it does a great job balancing THEIR forage for which they have an analysis.
I have also seen hay analyses where 1.5lb of TC 30 does a better job balancing things than any of those v/m supps.
Neither can be declared winner or lower without an actual analysis of the forage you are feeding.
You’re fine 
5lb of TC Sr is 7,730 calories.
The current diet is roughly 4450 calories, assuming 2lb alf pellets at 1000 cal/lb, and 500 cal for the flax.
That would be a significant calorie increase.
The better option would be TC Lite, where the amount fed can be as low as 1lb/500lb, as high as 2lb/500lb, but there, you don’t have an option of increasing calories unless you go back to adding hay pellets.
Thank you. They had me like what!
The only issue I do I have is he can’t go on rocks with out shoes on fronts and I just kinda happen to to where he couldn’t tolerate rocks so shoed him. I do not feel heat from hooves. But that’s the only thing. But farrier says he has hard feet. His back feet never chip. He never pulls shoes. So idk if u may classify they as have feet issues.
Ugh… TC30 is an excellent ration balancer… and the soy meal is only a problem if the horse has a problem with soy.
Lots of horses can’t go barefoot everywhere especially at speed and under saddle. Some of us have hoof boots for that reason. It doesn’t mean he has compromised hoof health.
Can you walk barefoot on rocks without flinching? That is unrealistic.
Aaaaaaaaaand they used the magikal word “detox,” which is the #1bullshit buzzword in all those faddish “cleansing” diets marketed to unhappy humans.
That alone, OP, would make me run far, far away.
well no but many horses can. But if a horse doesn’t need back shoes to walk on rocks shouldn’t they need need fronts? Or is it bc they are front end heavy so carry most weight on front end?
What footing does he live on? I had a horse with excellent feet, hard walls, thick concave soles, wide healthy frogs. He lived in my pasture. He did work (when he wasn’t injured) in the pasture and my bluestone ring, and could walk down a paved road and through the woods. But he couldn’t go on rocky trails. Why? Acclimation. I have NO doubt if I had access to rocky trails to gradually acclimated his feet, he could have been a “gravel crusher”
I walk without shoes all Summer on our gravel driveway. Husband is always yelling “put some shoes on!” But I don’t start out that way in Spring, it’s ouchy and I walk carefully until my feet acclimate.
Yep. And don’t get me wrong, there is value in “detox” in many situations. But “detoxiing” from nutrients isn’t one of them.
Front and hind feet have different jobs, and hinds already tend to be more concave than fronts… The horse is a front-heavy animal. I suspect more horse are sore behind on rocks than people think, but the added weight up front makes it seem like it’s just a front end deal. But that hind concavity does seem to make enough of a difference for a lot of horses
he lives in dirt lot. So gets hard in winter and dry times
in summer the. Get wet from rain. Snow etc. I have gravel around water and gates. And he has to walk on gravel to get to barn. I feel it happened after one trim and farrier took so much sole off and so short (barefoot still) the after that it started
Honestly @JB I totally disagree that many barefoot horses can walk on rocks in comfort. I have a gravel drive and 5 barefoot and 5 shod horses here. I would never choose to walk any of them on the rocks, but I can tell a difference in each and every one on the gravel. It is way less for the shod horses. OP’s horse doesn’t have acclimation. Nor do most.
Could they down down the road with special training? Maybe but that is, like I said, unrealistic. Shoe the horse for its conditions, not an ideal one can only reach through discomfort over time.
completely agree horses are front end heavy so it makes sense one will be more sore up front.
Most horses will be sore on even decent footing after a hack trim job :no:
I never said “many barefoot horses can walk on rocks in comfort”. My entire post was about acclimation. If you have the means to acclimate then yes, many can. If you don’t, then it’s the genetically gifted horses who can.
You said it’s unrealistic. I’m saying it’s not.
However, bridging the gap is usually unrealistic as most owners don’t have the time or footing to get that done. Compound that with the fact that so many horses are not properly trimmed, and aren’t eating a high quality diet, and reality is that most won’t be able to.
