[QUOTE=carolprudm;6375010]
I red the mare to Bridon Belfrey RID and the 2 YO should go well over 16 hands[/QUOTE]
I have an ID colt by Bridon Belfrey. At 3yo he is almost 17.3hh at the hip and 17.2hh at the withers. His dam was 17.1hh at the withers. He certainly is getting up there…
For interest sake this is my Purebred filly by Art last season as a yearling: Ty She is now a little over 2years and stands about 14.2 + at the wither (the purebreds really slow down after 2-so hard to say for sure where she’ll finish–though my guess currently is about 14.2 1/2"-14.3HH).
This is her earlier this spring: Ty
And this is the *Gunsmoke filly from the same mother (now rising 5) Ole. This one finished 14.2HH and was exported to France where her owner is originally from.
JMO but I thought Ole (Gunsmoke) had a better neck shape/length of rein, while Ty (Art) has a better hind leg and more angle to her hip (more of a jumper butt shape). Tys temperament is vastly different than Oles–Ty has always been outgoing and people oriented. Ole on the other hand was a very shy foal (the only shy one from that particular mare). Both fillies were/are enormously athletic and very good movers.
Mom is 14.1HH.
For interest sake this is my Purebred filly by Art last season as a yearling: Ty She is now a little over 2years and stands about 14.2 + at the wither (the purebreds really slow down after 2-so hard to say for sure where she’ll finish–though my guess currently is about 14.2 1/2"-14.3HH).
This is her earlier this spring: Ty
And this is the *Gunsmoke filly from the same mother (now rising 5) Ole. This one finished 14.2HH and was exported to France where her owner is originally from.
JMO but I thought Ole (Gunsmoke) had a better neck shape/length of rein, while Ty (Art) has a better hind leg and more angle to her hip (more of a jumper butt shape). Tys temperament is vastly different than Oles–Ty has always been outgoing and people oriented. Ole on the other hand was a very shy foal (the only shy one from that particular mare). Both fillies were/are enormously athletic and very good movers.
Mom is 14.1HH.
i think Ty will finish near 15h if not more 
Rebel was 14.1 at 2 and is approaching 15h at a little over 4
Her butt is @ 14.3HH which is what Im basing my current estimate on (which is a reasonably good estimate with a two year old Purebred from this particular mare). She is a very stout filly with close to 8" of bone and probably weighs near 900lb.
Her other half brother by a 13.3HH stallion was the same height (@14.2HH at two) at the same age and at age 7 is 14.2 1/2" and surprisingly level. Different lines definitely mature at different rates. Their mother also really bloomed starting around age 7.
Interesting.
I just LOVE the jump and attitude I am seeing on those Connemaras…
Well as far as temperament goes, the only Gun Smoke offspring I personally know of has as good a temperament as a pony could have, and she passed it down to her filly (the pony I owned).
Here is an album I put together of her
http://pets.webshots.com/album/581172478giACNA
Best of luck finding the right match. I am shopping again and after looking at a few warmbloods with the typical disastrous results, I pretty much figure I’ll never own anything but a PB or half-bred Connemara.
[QUOTE=Perfect Pony;6376436]
Well as far as temperament goes, the only Gun Smoke offspring I personally know of has as good a temperament as a pony could have, and she passed it down to her filly (the pony I owned).
Here is an album I put together of her
http://pets.webshots.com/album/581172478giACNA
Best of luck finding the right match. I am shopping again and after looking at a few warmbloods with the typical disastrous results, I pretty much figure I’ll never own anything but a PB or half-bred Connemara.[/QUOTE]
Have you considered an Irish Draught or IDX?
[QUOTE=carolprudm;6376446]
Have you considered an Irish Draught or IDX?[/QUOTE]
Yes actually, I went to look at one two weeks ago, and had another appt cancelled on me for last weekend as the owner sold her other horse and is now keeping the ISH 
Another one (a ISH/Appy cross) sold 2 days before my appt. The only problem I have with the Irish Sport Horses are finding them small enough (less the 16hh) and finding ones that have a really strong hind end for dressage. But to answer your question, I have actively looked for them as well.
[QUOTE=Perfect Pony;6376496]
Yes actually, I went to look at one two weeks ago, and had another appt cancelled on me for last weekend as the owner sold her other horse and is now keeping the ISH Another one (a ISH/Appy cross) sold 2 days before my appt. The only problem I have with the Irish Sport Horses are finding them small enough (less the 16hh) and finding ones that have a really strong hind end for dressage. But to answer your question, I have actively looked for them as well.[/QUOTE]
Yup, they are not easy to find.
Although they are on the east Coast Tony or Sarah might know of something
http://www.belltowerstud.com/
One of their stallions is smaller and perhaps he has offspring closer to you
[QUOTE=EquusMagnificus;6376161]
Interesting.
I just LOVE the jump and attitude I am seeing on those Connemaras…[/QUOTE]
At least with respect to the Photos I shared the mother scored an 8.5 free jumping at the GOV/Weser Ems Mare Performance Test–was the highest single score awarded for the entire test–both ponies and Warmbloods. The sire of my mare was a very successful show jumper that regularly competed up to 4ft 3" in open competition. Her dam I’m told was one of the best showjumping ponies of her time (with a child rider).
Art 3yr old
Rocky, my 3yr old Art colt is around 14.2. (I don’t think he’ll get much bigger.) Mom was small too at 15.1. Premium at his OldNA/ISR inspection as a weanling. Excellent temperment and desire to learn. He’s bold and full of personality; but, very respectful when he is haltered and knows we are working. Walk/trot/canter in the roundpen with really nice transitions. Took only about 15 minutes to bridle him for the first time. I’m working slowly towards backing him this summer. I cannot post pictures here - PM me and I can email some.
[QUOTE=Perfect Pony;6376436]
Well as far as temperament goes, the only Gun Smoke offspring I personally know of has as good a temperament as a pony could have, and she passed it down to her filly (the pony I owned).
Here is an album I put together of her
http://pets.webshots.com/album/581172478giACNA
Best of luck finding the right match. I am shopping again and after looking at a few warmbloods with the typical disastrous results, I pretty much figure I’ll never own anything but a PB or half-bred Connemara.[/QUOTE]
My *Gunsmoke mare has a good temperament and all her babies that we’ve had have been super willing and smart and insanely people-orientated.
First colt sold to a first-time Connemara person who raves about him and has said pretty much the same thing as you - she will never own anything ever again that is not a purebred Connemara or a halfbred. My mare just had a halfbred colt sired by Triple Twist very, very pleased with him.
[QUOTE=WindyIsles;6377540]
First colt sold to a first-time Connemara person who raves about him and has said pretty much the same thing as you - she will never own anything ever again that is not a purebred Connemara or a halfbred. [/QUOTE]
I still regret selling my pony just about every single day, even though she was not really suited conformationally to what I wanted to do, and I simply could not resist selling her to the little girl who had fallen madly in love with her. She made it clear she was meant to be a H/J pony and be owned by a little girl, but it will always be one of the best learning experiences of my life, and now I want another.
This is my pony at 4 1/2 years old. She had only jumped a handful of times, and this was the second time the little girl had ridden her, it was the day I sold her
She is by Brigadoon out of the Gun Smoke mare. The mare greatly improved on the sire in every way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3HvXUk9C2Q
[QUOTE=Perfect Pony;6377563]
The mare greatly improved on the sire in every way. [/QUOTE]
I really like that you said that. Because so much of the emphasis is on finding a stallion to “fix” a mare when it comes to breeding.
So it’s nice to see someone remember that the mare can too be an “improver” and I like to think of breeding to not be so much as “fixing” as it is “complimenting” one another.
Probably one of my favorite babies is my Court Jester who is sired by Goodpony’s Eclipse and out of my mare *Fairyhill Queen. It was a strong type-to-type match and they complimented each other very well. Jester had exceeded my expectations for what I hoped to get out of that cross.
(Now if his mother will FINALLY have her 2012 baby :lol: - different stallion - so I can do some comparisons!)
I think some of you may have missinterpreted my post about our “shy” foal the wrong way. I saw this filly at her Breed Inspection as a two year old and she was a delight in every way. Very calm and relaxed in the stable and while being shown.
[QUOTE=goodpony;6377612]
I think some of you may have missinterpreted my post about our “shy” foal the wrong way. I saw this filly at her Breed Inspection as a two year old and she was a delight in every way. Very calm and relaxed in the stable and while being shown.[/QUOTE]
I hope not. One of the things I have seen with the few Connemaras I have been around, my pony in particular, is they are “thinkers”. My pony would not let me touch her when I first met her, and it was not in a scared way, more like a “who are you and are you going to treat me right?” sort of way. When she was vetted (by an old-school, no-nonsense vet who rides endurance) she was also “shy”, his comment was that he appreciated her personality, and he felt she would do anything for her rider, “if asked in the right way” 
I just think they are really smart, and they tend to think about things, and they have a strong sense of justice and what is right and wrong. I trusted my pony in a way I don’t think I have ever trusted an equine. The one time she bucked me off she was absolutely horrified about the consequences and stood staring at me trembling while I lay there on the ground.
I have since then learned to appreciate a horse/pony that is a little more stand-offish, and takes their time getting to know you and evaluating situations. It’s actually one of the personality traits I really like.
[QUOTE=carolprudm;6376540]
Yup, they are not easy to find.
Although they are on the east Coast Tony or Sarah might know of something
http://www.belltowerstud.com/
One of their stallions is smaller and perhaps he has offspring closer to you[/QUOTE]
Perfect Pony we might end up having the ‘perfect pony’ for you. We bred our Connemara x TB mare (14.1++) to Belltower Stud’s Winmaur Sergent Pepper (15.1). ‘Fergal’ is the world’s smallest RID stallion, so maybe next season we will have the world’s smallest ISH . Both sire and dam have lots of bone, are big bodied, and can MOVE! Very excited about the cross!
[QUOTE=justix;6374857]
I just bred my 15.3 TB mare (by Mokhieba) to Art…hoping for a smallish sport horse for myself. I chose him because he is proven in competition and because of his stellar temperament. I am really looking forward to this foal! Good luck, there are so many good stallions out there, it is overwhelming![/QUOTE]
That should be one heck of a cross! I have a yearling filly by him out of a Connemara (*Grange Finn Sparrow) x TB mare.
http://www.fadetogreyfarm.com/mares/brambleridge_celtic_sparrow
[QUOTE=GAEventer;6377691]
Perfect Pony we might end up having the ‘perfect pony’ for you. We bred our Connemara x TB mare (14.1++) to Belltower Stud’s Winmaur Sergent Pepper (15.1). ‘Fergal’ is the world’s smallest RID stallion, so maybe next season we will have the world’s smallest ISH . Both sire and dam have lots of bone, are big bodied, and can MOVE! Very excited about the cross![/QUOTE]
I have a yearling colt by Fergal out of Beeza, Sophie’s dam. Yup, he can move
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