COTH Cat Psychologists: WTH?

Lengthy Backstory:
Adopted 2 6mo kittens in 2015.
1 - Bounce - made himself “to home” by August.
The other - Cheeto - lived in my basement for 4yrs. Only moved upstairs when I needed work done there & livetrapped him.
He & Bounce became BF(eline)Fs.
Often velcroed together napping.
4yrs later, he succumbed to FIC.
That was July '23, Bounce was an only until October. I went with a friend to a shelter & found they had a Srs for Srs program that adopted older cats to older people Free. Vaxed, neutered tested for FeLu/FIV & microchipped.
A week or two later I took home Stripes - 11yo skinny tiger guy. With some renal issues.
After some initial Kitty Opera they settled & while never superfriendly, they were at least cordial to each other.
Then in October this year, Stripes crashed & I lost him.
I donated the nearly-full case of the pricy Royal Canin kidney food to the shelter & on a whim(?) asked to see any Srs they had…
Resulting in me taking Milo - 6yo - home a week later.
Now, nearing 2+ months in, Milo seems settled, but Bounce… :roll_eyes:
Still singing The Song of His People if he so much as sees Milo.
Who, TG, ignores him.
The LR is now Bounce’s territory, kitchen is Milo’s, hallway to the BR is the DMZ, BR is Milo’s.
I am Switzerland :expressionless:
No engagement or paws thrown, just noise from 8# Bounce & :see_no_evil::hear_no_evil::speak_no_evil:from 12# Milo.
On to my question:

A couple days ago I heard hissing/growl from Milo’s usual perch in the kitchen (my desk chair).
Thinking it was Bounce, I checked & found Milo fighting his own tail :confused:
Since then he’s done this a couple more times.
Always when he’s on “his” chair.
Chair also holds one of those feather-on-a-stick toys he plays with while lying on the chair.
Still his usual calm self otherwise.
I try to give him some Me Time daily, sitting in the chair with him on my lap. He totally relaxes, turns bellyup, purrs. He also accompanies me everywhere except the LR. Though he does stroll in there occasionally, ignores the Bounce Siren & sits in the window.
Not my Shadow, but supervises my making the bed, taking laundry to the basement, etc.
WTH?
Google suggested self-agression can be from tension, a skin disease or pain.
Milo’s coat is in great shape, nothing I can feel or see at skin level, no sign of pain, eating, using the litterbox, etc.
Some sad-sounding vocalizing, but rarely.
Whassup with the Chair Deathmatch? :worried:

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Chair deathmatch may just be as you said, stress and/or overstimulation. If you’re up for trying something, the droplets of RescueRemedy seem to help some people with intraspecific aggression in household cats.

He may just need more time to settle in!

BTW, photos of Milo for cat tax please. :slightly_smiling_face:

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I have no advice, just commiseration. I have an adopted kitty, she does the deathmatch with her tail every night in the exact same spot in our kitchen. Armageddon lasts about two minutes, then she carries on as usual. She never does it anywhere else and it’s always at the same time of day This has been going on for 2 years. I think she’s playing as she seems to snap out of it in a happy mood.
She is a healthy and happy little cat. She does have an underdeveloped leg from the growth plate not maturing or something like that and according to the vet it’s not painful and she gets around great.
Maybe your guy is just having his “power hour” when the deathmatch happens?

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My cats have always played with and chased their own tail and I’ve never been worried about it. Seems kind of handy to have your own built in toy. Unless he’s actually hurting himself (causing wounds) I wouldn’t worry about it.

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Ask & ye shall receive :blush:
12# of Don’tCare


8# of IHATE YOU!

I’ll try the Rescue Remedy for BOTH! :confused:
@cayuse :smile:Power Hour!

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I have a orange tabby and a black and white (tuxedo) too!

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My four year old does this nearly daily. He’s an insecure bully type in a multi cat household with a foster. Not perfect for his disposition but no one wants his PITA self. I tend to let him wrestle it out and then redirect with a toy for a few minutes.

Cat towers are big for our crew. They really need to be able to get up hide and have sleeping places down low.

As long as he isn’t drawing blood or injuring himself I wouldn’t fret too much.

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I had a cat that was chasing his tail. Flinging blood on the walls of the apartment. He got prescribed kitty Prosaic (30+ years so I don’t remember what). He started trying to jump onto the window sills and would miss and faceplant into the wall. No more kitty Prosaic. Twice he urinary blocked and would do better with the tail while taking Prednisone. I switched vets. He recommended removing the end 3rd of his tail. Never had a problem again. Vet’s thought was a pinched nerve in the tail was causing discomfort and he would chase it to catch what was causing the discomfort.
Just another avenue to explore.

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Was going to say that too. Had a female cat years ago who got weird about her tail. Aggressive. Fighting it and everyone. Sorry cannot remember the exact specifics but it was a problem in vertebrae or first couple of bones in the tail. Made her a little Bob tail and amputated it. Lived a peaceful life for the next 15 years. If rescue remedy doesn’t work might be something to investigate.

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Bounce said to tell you he wears a charcoal gray tux.
He stylin’ :wink:

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I believe I read somewhere that this can also be a sign of partial seizures. Maybe your vet could prescribe a trial of mild seizure meds to rule out the possibility.

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My apologies to Bounce :smile:. He IS a stylin’ dude. Handsome boy.

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It may be tail play that is forced to become war. I had a tail chaser who had a grand time of it unless I failed to keep his claws super short. When I failed, he would catch his tail with his needles and all hell would break loose.

This is unlikely (because it’s an easy remedy and this is a horse board where no such thing as an easy remedy exists) but thought I’d throw it out there on the off chance.

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Not related to the Tail Deathmatch, but…
Maybe Bounce needs this:

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He might have Feline Hyperesthesia Syndrome. I have a cat with it. When he gets bad, I treat with amitriptyline. Stress makes it worse.

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