Crosby Lynn Palm saddles....do they actually fit the quarter horses?

I’ve seen this mentioned in a couple of threads lately and to me, don’t look much different in the tree shape than other saddles of the same age. However, seeing as they can be had for pretty cheap, I’m wondering if it’s worth a try. I just don’t want to get stuck with a saddle I’ll never be able to sell if it doesn’t fit my horse.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/17-CROSBY-LYNN-PALM-close-contact-saddle-Got-stock-horses-/161886312961?hash=item25b12d1a01:g:TZ4AAOSw5VFWKcIV

I have an Appendix QH gelding who does not look particularly wide, but because of his bigger QH shoulder, he doesn’t fit in most saddles that I would normally buy. I’m wondering if this would be at all worth trying for the small price, or if it’s a waste of time?

I don’t have any great, or even recent confo type shots of my horse, unfortunately.

Thanks, COTHers. :slight_smile:

You mean this specific saddle? It’s appears kind of beat and no way to get even a hint how it might fit.

Best bet is to find one you can try on your horse. No other way to know. The brand doesn’t matter if it fits both horse AND you. It’s not particularly pricey brand even new and quite reasonable used. But I would not buy one, or any other brand without a trial or ability to return it in writing.

I would consider it!

I used to have that same model saddle for training horses (to fit the wider ones) and I loved it. It really did work for the bigger shouldered QH, and also some warmbloods. I sold it for more than I paid for it when I stopped taking in training horses.

It is possible mine was a different width, so I don’t know if it is exactly the same, but the one I had, did have a more sloped angle to the tree than a typical saddle.

I don’t think that saddle looks too beat up.

FWIW, the shape of the panels may help you out. They look like what I have on my AGA Grand Prix. And the gullet on my Grand Prix looks more narrow. But the Grand Prix seems to please a lot of horses, including modern, WB-infused wide ones.

ETA: Seller says the gullet measures 4.5" up front. That is wide by Crosby-of-that-era standards. And she calls it a wide tree. Not sure about this saddle, but I’d bet that if it were a wide tree, you’d find the stirrup bar stamped with a W (as opposed to the M for Medium) that’s on most of them. I might ask the seller for a picture denoting that W.

The forwardness of the flap my screw you with respect to big shoulders, depending on whether you mean mutton-withered (which might be OK for this kind flap) or “regular” near/behind the withers but with a large, muscular actual shoulder.

My only hesitation with buying this saddle would be the price and PITA involved in re-selling it. At $350, you might get your money back out…sooner if you get lucky and someone wants it or much, much later and via a tack store that allows trials. That’s the toughy with buying older saddles that modern buyers don’t know personally.

I saw these saddles “live” when they were new/first invented. But I never put one on a horse or rode in one, so I can’t tell you what you need to know. In your spot, I’d hold out for some old skool COTHer who does have that knowledge. Maybe post pictures of your horse’s naked back, too. And I think you can afford to wait: This kid of saddle has a specialty buyer.

I am not in a position to buy a saddle now, so mainly posted the above one on ebay 1) because it was the model of saddle I was referring to and the only one I’ve seen on ebay with a wide tree right now.

I know saddle fit is very individual for both horse and rider, but I was just curious as to other peoples’ experiences with that model of saddle on a quarter horse type build v a standard PDN tree for instance. I couldn’t really tell if there was much difference in tree shape.

The 17" saddle wouldn’t work for me anyway, but I know my horse would need the wider tree option if there was any chance it would fit him.

I saw this saddle too! I’m currently shopping for a wider shouldered, high withered beasty. I swear nothing fits right, except for his beat up old Crosby PDN (with a Lami-Cell to add some extra wither clearance). I’ve heard these Lynn Palms (who now works for Forestier or something) work well for the stockier types, but I don’t know. I’ve been told by fitters that Crosby’s would work or something with banana trees for my guy. I love my PDN, but it’s about as dead as they can be. I’ve actually been looking at the XL or Centennial models.

mvp, I saw your post after I hit submit on mine. I can’t buy a saddle right now as is, but I am hoping that when I can I can find something for less than $1500. I don’t know that I’d really like a no frills saddle, just wondering if it might work as a cheaper alternative.

Belmont, I have been following your thread. My horse has a lower wither, that’s long front to back, so that makes his fitting needs bit different from your guy. Anything I’ve put on him has perched. To include my beloved Voltaire and a wintec with an XW plate. To be fair the XW plate just perched slightly. I had a Thorowgood Cob GP saddle for a while, but I really didn’t love the saddle. It did work fairly well for him fit wise though. I have also say an older county Stabilizer (I believe that’s the model anyway) on my horse and the fit was not bad at all. It was about 9 months ago though.

I will find some pictures that I already have. The problem is they are older and he is not on the most level ground. He is slightly downhill as is, and the pictures I have exaggerate that.

Also adding I have seen the Lynn Palm Alliance saddles, made by Forestier. They seem to be a bit harder to come by. I did find a completed listing on ebay for one that was only $750. I’m sad I missed out on it. I did find one used one that is in the $2500 range and that unfortunately will be out of my price range for the foreseeable future. I also found an expired ad on tacktrader or something for about $1400.

In fact, I think my friend may have tried one of those on her horse at one point, so I’ll need to ask.

Have you tried a Duett? They can often be found on ebay in your price range, and have a hoop tree for wide shoulders. The ones I have bought have been wool flocked, and so somewhat adjustable.

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Have you tried a Duett? They can often be found on ebay in your price range, and have a hoop tree for wide shoulders. The ones I have bought have been wool flocked, and so somewhat adjustable.[/QUOTE]

I haven’t tried a Duett. The review I’ve read have been fairly mixed. When I do start officially saddle shopping I’d like to try one, but the true wide horse saddle feel is hard to me to get used to.

Have you seen any of my threads? I have an impossible to fit paint horse. This saddle (and many others) were recommended to me. I’m looking for a pancake saddle that fits my XXW guy, which is pretty much impossible.

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Have you seen any of my threads? I have an impossible to fit paint horse. This saddle (and many others) were recommended to me. I’m looking for a pancake saddle that fits my XXW guy, which is pretty much impossible.[/QUOTE]

Yes, I believe I saw this saddle mentioned on your thread. Have you tried it on your guy?

I’m one who has suggested the Lynn Palm saddle several times. I do not have any direct experience with it. I have suggested it because a)it was designed for stock horses and b)since pancake saddles are out of fashion, it’s generally cheap.

I found out about this model while researching saddles for my DD several years ago and filed away the knowledge just in case.

Here’s a review I found if that helps. I wish I could tell you something about it from personal experience, but I can’t. I do notice that it’s labeled “dressage saddle” in the review, but the ones I found online for sale were close-contact models.

http://www.horsetackreview.com/review-display.php?ID=11281

Lynn Palm’s website has contact information. She’s no longer partnering with Crosby (I think Crosby is defunct), but she may be willing to answer questions about the Prix des World. It may be worth a try:

http://www.alliancesaddlery.com/contact.php

Thanks, all!

I have posted about my guy on here before and did get some good feedback. The general consensus was a hoop tree saddle the last time. I’m just very hesitant to try them 1) because of my experience with the one wide horse saddle I’ve tried and not loving it. I had a throwogood cob GP saddle that worked fairly well on him, I just did not feel the most secure in it. The wide horse saddles definitely have a different feel. 2) my budget will likely never be much more than $1000 if even that much. I’ve read mixed reviews on the Duett saddles. I have found plenty used on ebay, but it’s not something I want to try without a trial because there’s definitely a niche market for those. 3) I loved my Voltaire more than any other saddle I’ve ever ridden in and I’m concerned I’ll never find a saddle I like that much again that will actually fit my horse. Nor will I have that budget again.

Here are a few pictures of my guy, none extremely recent and none that great

http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag99/rhifleming77/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-05/20150520_195114_zps7xyia2ti.jpg

You can see the shape of his shoulder there. Not very level ground.

http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag99/rhifleming77/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-07/20150723_201559_zpsblxs9mfh.jpg

Also not very level ground

http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag99/rhifleming77/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-08/20150825_195407_zpsawbbbuez.jpg

You can see his back well here at least

http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag99/rhifleming77/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-09/20150915_192641_zpsucqy2uam.jpg

http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag99/rhifleming77/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-02/20150413_182839_zpsq2jge42v.jpg

A picture of me on him from probably April or so. That’s the Thorowgood saddle.

OP, I test-drove one of these a long time ago when I was shopping for my Wide Load:

http://www.smithworthington.com/index.php?p=product&id=160

Given your preferences (but not your budget and their price, new) you might want to consider one of these.

If you call the Smith-Worthington Mother Ship in Hartford, CT and talk to Curt or Ruth about your saddling needs, they might be able to help you. Those guys are good at fitting saddles at a distance and, whether or not you want to buy new from them right now, S-W has a huge stock of demo saddles in all different sizes.

I’m a freak who does her own saddle fitting and spends a lot of money shipping saddles back and forth when shopping. I just think this is how it has to be done if I’m going to end up with something that suits me, horse and the wallet. So I wouldn’t think that the money spent on a big ol’ box o’ well-chosen candidate saddles from S-W was a waste.

Also, when shopping for the Wide Horse/Narrow Wallet (and likes the Frenchie Feel On Top) combination, your life will be easier (and cheaper in the end) if you take some good photos and wither tracings. So many competent distance-saddle-fitters will want those. You might as well have them on hand.

This SW is also made to fit QH types: http://www.smithworthington.com/index.php?p=product&id=179

It is a great deal right now as well if you don’t mind the bling. Though it’s out of OP’s current budget, I think. They might have a used or demo model available less expensively. I saw one of these once and it was very plush and comfy. It only comes in W and XW.

I have an old Crosby saddle. I bought it used and have no idea of the model or year. It decently fits my Appendix QH. He doesn’t have huge shoulders and we’re still building his topline up. Right now he has fairly high withers with not a lot of muscle around them. My saddle’s gullet has a little too much space and I usually fill that with a half pad. It works okay but I’m not sure it will still work once my boy is more fit. I’ve only had him since May. But I’ve had the saddle for several years and used to ride with it on lesson horses and a wide range of horses. For a used saddle bought from another student, it’s served me very well.

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Yes, I believe I saw this saddle mentioned on your thread. Have you tried it on your guy?[/QUOTE]

I haven’t found one to try, but it sounds like you and I are in the exact same boat. Let’s keep in touch over this as we both try things! I have a consignment shop just down the road from me so I’m just trying whatever they have come in that the owner thinks will fit my guy. Luckily the shop owners are amazing people that are keeping an eye out for me!

ETA: I have found the same thing with hoop tree saddles. I just hate the way the feel and miss my narrow twist. However, I don’t think either of us have a choice other than just getting used to it :frowning: