d-ring vs. loose-ring bits

[QUOTE=Madeline;5069559]
Before D-rings became “fashionable” you never saw them in the hunter ring- too “racetrack.” You saw mainly loose rings and egg butts. And pelhams. First year greens and ponies found full cheeks to be the in thing… Fashions change. I doubt that a loose ring would be marked down as unconventional… Gags, kimberwickes, three rings, running martingales…those are unconventional.[/QUOTE]

Agree. My horse shows in the hunters, eq and jumpers in a loose ring and pins in all at local and rated shows. I do, however, swap out the happy mouth for a sprenger in the hunter/eq because the big plastic parts that are visible are distracting.

[QUOTE=minor detail;5070574]
http://www.equestriancollections.com/product.asp?ic=ER11053R

I think this might be what you are looking for :)[/QUOTE]

Pretty dang close, though I’d prefer it to be fatter. That said, I think I’m going to give this one a try! Thanks!

Adding to my post about the history that Janet quoted, before the full cheek Everyone Knew that the only hunter bit was an eggbutt snaffle.

Seriously: the judge will notice your performance far more than the bit, as long as it is some kind of snaffle. They don’t care one whit about loose ring v. D. Pick a bit (first) that your horse goes well in and (second) choose a ring that looks nice on his face, all else equal.

If you have a great performance in your loose ring and start winning, you’ll be a trendsetter.

The loose ring can encourage a horse to chew and soften a bit and some horses quite prefer the action. Mine, on the other hand, hates the loose ring and gets very mouthy in it, which is why she goes in a D.

If you buy a decent (ie not cheaply made) loose ring and its not way to small it won’t pinch. Good ones are made (there is a bevel to the hole) in such a away that there it isn’t possible to get skin in there to get pinched.

I basically want this:

http://www.smartpakequine.com/productclass.aspx?productClassid=7102

Without the Aurigan and without the choke-worthy price tag!

PS - sorry to (hopefully mildly) hijack, OP. I totally feel your pain! FWIW, if I can’t find the bit I want in a D-ring, I’m going to show him in his much loved loose ring at the A shows (Baby Greens).

[QUOTE=FineAlready;5070775]
I basically want this:

http://www.smartpakequine.com/productclass.aspx?productClassid=7102

Without the Aurigan and without the choke-worthy price tag!

PS - sorry to (hopefully mildly) hijack, OP. I totally feel your pain! FWIW, if I can’t find the bit I want in a D-ring, I’m going to show him in his much loved loose ring at the A shows (Baby Greens).[/QUOTE]

Try:
http://www.vtosaddlery.com/product/Dee/SEZCDRB.htm

http://www.vtosaddlery.com/product/Dee/JHDWOM.htm

[QUOTE=poltroon;5070810]
Try:
http://www.vtosaddlery.com/product/Dee/SEZCDRB.htm

http://www.vtosaddlery.com/product/Dee/JHDWOM.htm[/QUOTE]

Thanks! I’ve been eyeing that EZ-control for a while too. I wish the bean were bigger/longer, but it’s not bad. Price is still a little steep but not so bad.

I’m so picky about bits and I hate those curved JP Korsteel bits. Well, I probably hate them because my horse hates them. :wink:

I’m a “bit” (pun intended) of a bit-aholic. I found an old post I wrote to explaing what bits in a collection are a must have and why:

[I]1) Some sort of loose ring snaffle
2) Thick Eggbutt double jointed snaffle
3) Twisted wire

Loose rings are good for horses that like to pull or younger horses
Eggbutts are good for horses with a nice mouth
And a twisted is good for added control or strong horse that needs to back off when asked

To me, this collection runs top to bottom with only three bits…[/I]

I thought maybe it would help. Loose rings move - I actually don’t like to use them on older more trained horses because you cannot get that nice soft feel/pull that you want.

I find the best thing is to do is try bits until the horse goes well in it. And I do think bits can be changed up.

I just recently changed my horse into a mullen mouth and he really likes it.

And as far as trend; I personally go with what works as long as the rules don’t say I can’t. But to others that feel a D ring is a Hunter trend - maybe that Hunter riders horse just happens to go well in it and it shows their head off better.

OP here.
Thanks for all of the replies!! It helped me a lot.

And my loose rings have never pinched. I’ve had lots of people freak out on me when they see me riding in one without bit guards. Then I ask them to show me the pinch marks and lo-and-behold, they can’t.

But because of all of your comments re: young horses in D vs. loose, I may try a D ring as well. So-
Can anyone recommend a good double-jointed D-ring (like all of the links you’ve been posting) but thinner? My youngster hates all of the “bulk” of most of the regular bits (trust me, I’ve tried a LOT). Pretty much the smallest diameter double-jointed D-ring bit you can find (that won’t kill my wallet; it may not even work for him!).

Beatifull history :wink:

I agree with @Valentina_32926 . I avoid loose rings for this reason. Bit guards aren’t allowed in the hunter ring, and I won’t be using a loose ring without bit guards, so why even go there? Choose a bit you can show in (unless you never plan to show, of course).