[dumb old pensioner]They’re not vicious dogs to people but if they see an animal they will go for it."[/dumb old pensioner]
So will almost every single dog in the world.
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The Daily Mail is this sort of newspaper. You shouldn’t even use it to wipe your _ss.[/QUOTE]
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:lol: Emily needs to hit the brainasium a little more often.
I hunt with two different hunts. Both packs for these hunts would not have a run a cat or any other animal other than a fox. As I said before, a well trained pack of hounds will not take off after non hunted game. I have a foxhound that was retired out of the pack. That hound will not run rabbits, squirrels, cats, deer, etc. She will run a fox every time.
Do we expect that people, whose land we hunt across, should cage all of their animals when the hunts comes by?
The hunt in question needs to train their pack more and better. The people with the cat are not culpable in this situation. The attitudes here blaming the owners of the cat do no favors to hunting.
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As I said before, a well trained pack of hounds will not take off after non hunted game. [/QUOTE]
And pigs can fly.
It’s common to keep animals in on hunting days (and take in the washing).
Imagining that your hounds won’t hit on another animal is akin to not wearing a helmet because your horse is so well trained.
I am glad you posted that, Equibrit, because it’s not been my experience here in Texas that hounds won’t go after anything other than foxes (and coyotes). In fact, at one fixture the owner makes sure all her dogs are in the house and cautions everyone not to let them out “because the hounds will kill them”. I haven’t wanted to experiment to see if she is correct.
At least in the U.S. we have the advantage, often, of large tracts of land, and don’t have the public rights-of-way that they have in the U.K.; At least we don’t have them in Texas.
So in your view equibrit, a pack of hounds that chases after squirrels, rabbits, deer, other dogs, cats, etc. is acceptable. A pack that is chasing non-game animals is running riot and that is not acceptable. If I were member of hunt that had such an undisciplined pack I’d be embarrassed.
The DM isn’t as bad, usually, as those cancer articles would indicate.
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So in your view equibrit, a pack of hounds that chases after squirrels, rabbits, deer, other dogs, cats, etc. is acceptable.[/QUOTE]
Why do people put words in to the mouths of others ? I mean, you can spell, put the words in the correct order for somebody to read. What is your excuse for fabricating my views ? I spent all those years whipping in for nothing.
Your loss.
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The Daily Mail is this sort of newspaper. You shouldn’t even use it to wipe your _ss.[/QUOTE]
Oh. The sort of irresponsible claptrap that is often passing for journalism these days. So if I used the paper to line the birdcage I’d probably give my birds cancer!!!
Meh. Hardly a credible source of information. I’m very sorry if anyone lost an animal in a dog attack. But I’m not going to get frothy about this incident unless the whole story is known. Over the years I have seen little to no factual
information about hunting in UK papers. (US papers either but that’s a different thread I guess). And when it comes to foxhunting the papers seem to take great delight in distorting facts and misrepresenting things.
As far as running riot, the mere fact we have a word for it means it can happen. Just like in any other type of hunting dog. And it is never, ever acceptable. It’s not acceptable in hunting dogs, and it’s not acceptable in pet dogs. But accidents happen. They happen with pet dogs, more often than not. But anything to fan the anti-foxhunting flames…
While you can never say ’ never,’ I agree, the packs I’ve whipped in- after years of good breeding and properly entering young entry, and the day in and day out care and handling of the pack- no, they assuredly should not go after a house cat and as whipper-in I’d have been charged with a really big Come To Jesus moment for any hound that did.
Random example- there was a period between huntsmen when I walked the pack out daily, with one or two others whipping in, and we were close to ‘hound show’ time meaning not yet introducing that year’s entry to the pack. A young hound who’d just finished his first year of hunting took off in front of me to go after a squirrel crossing the road. Brain cramp on his part. As I verbally rated him, not one other hound broke ranks, instead they packed in tightly around me and said ‘heck no, we ain’t gonna do that.’ Neither of the whippers-in accompanying me had to take ANY action to control those 18 couple. Young upstart needed nothing more than verbal correction to come back with chagrined look on face. When out hunting, we frequently went past yards all the time containing loose dogs and cats- the cats tended to take care of themselves but we did have to focus on keeping cur dogs from challenging the hounds who were dutifully packed up and not looking to go near the dog.
So- while I haven’t read the entire thread, I would agree that a pack that accounts for a house cat isn’t a good thing. And I will further say that if it DID happen, MFH ought to be all over apologizing for how awful it was, how sorry the hunt is, buy 'em another cat, make a contribution to a charity in the cat’s memory, and say mea maxima culpa to that landowner for as long as it takes to mend the fence.
I will add that no, landowners don’t have ANY responsibility to lock up their pets or livestock, deaf, lame, or otherwise. A hunt crosses landowners’ property exclusively by the grace of the landowners, and the hunt is 100% responsible for the behavior of its staff, members, AND hounds when on someone’s land.
:yes: exactly as Beverly says!
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[dumb old pensioner]They’re not vicious dogs to people but if they see an animal they will go for it."[/dumb old pensioner]
So will almost every single dog in the world.[/QUOTE]
So will most cats. 
Alas, it was always thus.
