No one was attacking you just having a DISCUSSION about things. It’s ok if others opinions are different from yours.
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Wrong. You don’t get to hijack my post, and neither does the other troll.
Thank you to the others of you for your thoughtful comments. I hope you understand I wasn’t painting you all with the same brush.[/QUOTE]
I recommend a mimosa with breakfast this morning.
It won’t hurt the earthworms. I have used daily dewormer for all 15 years that I’ve been on this 7.5 acre farm, and between spreading manure from stalls, the manure in the pastures, and the heap that gets tossed out of the run-in shelter and occasionally scooped up and used in flower beds, etc. I have a lot of poop everywhere. I also have a lot of earthworms.
Inconsistent use of a product – starting/stopping/starting again-- leads to resistance.
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No one was attacking you just having a DISCUSSION about things. It’s ok if others opinions are different from yours.[/QUOTE]
Except people were giving opinions about something that had nothing to do with my question, after I had stated I wasn’t interested in those opinions. The guilty parties were clearly – CLEARLY – trying to stir the pot.
I have no problem at all that some people answered my question and then as an aside threw in their negative opinion about daily wormer, for the record.
My own vet recommended it for her a year ago after a nasty tape infestation at a boarding barn, and the other thing is I have a wild card with the new pony she’s rooming with now and we had a sea of poop to clean up outside after the long frozen winter here.
I’m very mindful of manure management and anthelmintic control, so you folks that are on your high horse and prescribing alcoholic beverages can just dismount now.
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Inconsistent use of a product – starting/stopping/starting again-- leads to resistance.[/QUOTE]
Well, not really 
Its continued use, either day in and day out, or for 6 months of the year every year, leads to resistance (as well as the common too-low dosing). Using it from March to November, then not from Nov-Feb, isn’t what causes resistance in and of itself.
There are very, very few horses who benefit from being on a DW. Very few. All other situations are contributing to the growing resistance of the DW, or are being set up to become seriously infested if/when they come off it because their body is never given a chance to develop its own immunity.
It’s silly to use a DW in hopes of keeping the horse worm-free when the goal should never be worm-free. They NEED a small load to keep the immune system stimulated.
Drafty, you’re in an area where you might not need to be deworming in the Winter (which is why I’ll assume you stop the DW) due to snow cover or temps that are consistently below 45* that whole time, and that’s fine. I hope you are at least using Equimax or Quest Plus twice a year.
Please reconsider the use of the DW. It’s harmful as a whole. Unless there is a horse who for whatever reason cannot do well without it, just don’t use it. There is NO good reason to anymore.
Twice a year FECs and 2, or even 3 or even 4 normal dewormings is LOTS cheaper, and far, far more helpful to the parasite issues that exist.
Get used to internet forums 
It doesn’t matter that a specific question was asked, people with an opinion and/or knowledge about the subject are going to answer (or ask) questions that they feel are the questions needing to be asked that aren’t. Not everyone asks the question in an OP they really should be asking, and many people want to make sure it’s out in the open.
I would really hate for all the people reading this thread, who don’t know enough, to think that just because a DW is ok in a manure pile that the are then free to use a DW just because, well, whatever. People with too little education read threads like this, so the more information they have, the better.
It doesn’t sound like there was regular twice yearly use of praziquantel, or there wouldn’t be any infestation of tapeworms. A DW is the LAST thing that should be recommended for that :no:
the other thing is I have a wild card with the new pony she’s rooming with now and we had a sea of poop to clean up outside after the long frozen winter here.
Still not a good reason to use a DW. If temps are still regularly under 45*, then nothing is hatching anyway, so cleaning up the manure removes the threat.
If the new pony is properly dewormed, she’s not going to contribute to an infection rate. If manure is properly managed, the risk is lowered as well. FECs (again, far cheaper than the DW) will tell you who needs to be dewormed how often. LET them get some parasites so their immune system can do what it does pretty well most of the time
I’m very mindful of manure management and anthelmintic control, so you folks that are on your high horse and prescribing alcoholic beverages can just dismount now.
I’m not trying to be snarky, but being “mindful” isn’t the same as being educated, and there’s no good reason why horses treated twice a year with praziquantel at a proper dose should have any tapeworm infestation, much less a nasty one. I can see mayyyyybe the occasional, odd horse who’s just…screwed up somehow, but I would not remotely continue the DW beyond a year without a really good reason. Not “just because”.
Praziquantel is very, very effective at killing tapeworms - better and more species than pt is.
