Debbies explanation for what went wrong with Brentina

No worries. I was just quoting your comment to get it out there for anyone who may have you on ignore :winkgrin:

As for me. Well. I’m happy enough to belive it simply because I’m not there. I don’t know the horse. I’m not a vet. And in the end-what does it matter? Also, I don’t have enough energy for all the conspiracy theories :wink:

It’s not the best way to go out but in 4 years when we have a whole new team and a whole new set of individul competitors I’m sure no one will remember this whole thing or at least their perspectives will have changed :slight_smile:

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It’s not the best way to go out but in 4 years when we have a whole new team and a whole new set of individul competitors I’m sure no one will remember this whole thing or at least their perspectives will have changed :)[/QUOTE]

Personally, I’m hoping to see Courtney King-Dye and Steffen Peters in London… :slight_smile:

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No worries. I was just quoting your comment to get it out there for anyone who may have you on ignore :winkgrin:

As for me. Well. I’m happy enough to belive it simply because I’m not there. I don’t know the horse. I’m not a vet. And in the end-what does it matter? Also, I don’t have enough energy for all the conspiracy theories :wink:

It’s not the best way to go out but in 4 years when we have a whole new team and a whole new set of individul competitors I’m sure no one will remember this whole thing or at least their perspectives will have changed :)[/QUOTE]

I do agree with you:) thanks

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I remember Atlanta 1996 was the first Olympics to include the kur and have it be the final medal round. I believe GP has always decided the team competition, and GPS alone decided the individual medals prior to 1996. So until 1996, the Olympics were a 2-round competition, team and individual. 1996 on, a 3-round competition, team, individual field trim down, and individual final.

As a nostalgic sidelight, one of my top memories from being at Atlanta and watching that first Olympic kur is (besides Isabell and Anky and Klaus, of course) watching Lucky Lord (rider forgotten, sorry, but neat gray horse, looked like a chess piece) do his entry in perfect time to Ghostbusters. :lol:[/QUOTE]

dressagetraks, I distinctly and fondly remember that exact same ride!!! It may not have been the judges’ favorite, but it was absolutely a crowd favorite and the rider really looked to be enjoying that performance. It was one of my favorite things I saw, and was my first exposure to the freestyle.

That was Margit Otto-Crepin on Lucky Lord.
He was no successor to the legendary Corlandus, but a still a very nice horse.

Yes, and on my tape from 1996, her broad smile at her entry, and just the joy she had doing that freestyle, is such a highlight, even though other horse/rider combinations finished higher.

For years, my BO has had her tape poised to start at that ride. She shows it to her students as an example of what dressage should be about.

What does it matter? Yup, you’re right. It doesn’t matter a wit, since honesty, integrity and good sportsmanship have nothing at all to do with the Olympics. It’s all about attempting to save face in the event of bad decisions and/or bad luck.:yes:

I remain flabbergasted that soundness can continue to be touted despite anyone who knows anything about lameness being able to see clear unsoundness in that performance. Then again, I’ve given up rides due to soundness issues that owners have refused to deal with because they honestly couldn’t see them. Maybe it’s just me (and a few others) being too sensitive or imagining NQRness in a horse for whom we wished nothing but the best GP test possible. Not to mention wishing only the best for her rider too!

Sascha, as my urban high school students say, “True that, Miss!!”

I wonder how many riders/judges would lower their standards of “almost lame”, NQR after seemingly uneven Olympic ride of Debbie/Brentina that yet was proven absolutely sound by 3 vets and scored very respectably?

It is a very strange example/message that US Dressage Team is sending to us, dressage riders, especially with a poised USEF Horse Of The Year!

And the whole FEI slogan of “Horse as a Happy Athlete” - hit the new low! Severally over bend at warm-ups Salinero and uneven, heavy breathing Brentina - both scores at the top of sport of dressage! International top judges, what is wrong with that picture?