Thank you for the information everyone! Thread can be deleted.
No idea but they seem to be of Hispanic origin to me, from what appears to be a crupper attachment ring on the back.
Definitely a stock saddle…
I have never seen a plantation saddle with a horn but I haven’t seen too many. Maybe you should find one of those copies of a 19th century Sears catalog?
Here is a reference for you. I can’t believe I haven’t run across this website before…I want them all!
Mostly see old western stuff.
the saddles are wonderful by the way!
Thank you. Can anyone tell me if I am measuring correctly? You can see in the very last picture for each saddle. For saddle 1 and 2, I came up with size 14.5" and for saddle 3 I got 13". Just wondering if this is correct.
Saddle #1 reminds me of a Buena Vista type saddle popular in CA. There is the vestige of an anquera a leather piece behind the cantle. In the older CA saddles this was a large piece where a vaquero’s lady could ride behind him. This would be effective in keeping a bed roll off the horse’s back but not much more. Most Buena Vistas don’t have horns but there’s no reason why someone could not order one with a horn.
I’d make the same basic comments on saddle #2.
Saddle #3 has a VERY high cantle, reminiscent of the military saddles commonly used when the lance was a viable weapon. Otherwise it appears to have the same basic lineage as the first two.
Thanks for the info everyone. I’m going to keep this post up for a few days to get as many opinions as possible. I intend to sell them, but I would just like to know for sure what they are before I do. I have yet to find any like them.
When measuring "english"style saddles they are measured from the front of the pommel to the back of the cantle - so I think you are measuring them too small.
Here is something called a “classic Kentucky plantation saddle.” I found it by Googling “plantation saddle with metal horn.” I have no idea how authoritative this website is.
I have never seen a plantation saddle with a horn, because plantation saddles were not used for roping. They don’t have the right rigging or stirrups for roping. Horns are for roping, primarily (note that Australian stock saddles don’t have horns, because apparently Australian stockmen don’t rope their cattle).
There is another similar saddle here (scroll down, I think it is about #15). It may be from Kentucky. It does not have the skirt, though, that yours do, or the ring behind the cantle.
Nifty!! Sorry I can’t help with ID.
I am hoping that someone says “I know exactly what those are!”.