Dixie Union Offspring? Check out my OTTB's pedigree

Is anyone familiar with Dixie Union offspring in the sport horse world?

My 6 year old OTTB gelding is by Dixie Union/Dash for Money. Please check out his pedigree and let me know your thoughts, and tell me about your horses that share his breeding.
http://www.pedigreequery.com/deal+flow

This article has a photo of “Dash” (Hip 300) being auctioned as a yearling at the Saratoga sale in 2011: http://www.nytbreeders.org/news/2011/08/15/ny-bred-sale-concludes/

He’s in training to be a hunter and is coming along.
He is quiet and mellow, with a sweet unflappable personality. We’re taking it slow and steady with his training as he has been through the wringer in the past year. The seller who sold him to me previously sold him to someone who starved and neglected him. :frowning: Seller rehabbed him for 3 months before I purchased him.

I’m excited to be working with my first greenie, with the assistance of an excellent trainer. It’s rewarding to see him put on weight and muscle, and improve each day.

I have a soft spot in my heart for Dixieland Band horses… he seems to have really stamped some of his sons, and they stamp too - most every Dixie Union horse I see is bay, solid, average mover, compact with big shoulder, nice head, and just a little bit downhill – and then nearly every Hookandladder horse is similar: bay, big, expressive eyes. Dixieland Band has quite a few sons that I love seeing in a pedigree. He brings a lot of jump to the table, I think.

In my experience they are not world-beaters, but are perfect ammy mounts. Usually average mover (not a bad thing) but good jumpers. I have heard over the years that Dixieland Band, Dixie Union, Dixie Brass, etc, have passed on “crazy” temperaments but I have not found that to be the case… I had one of the most mellow horses in the world by Dixie Brass who would just fall asleep in the middle of the class he was so quiet. I think the reputation for their difficulty stems more from the fact they can be incredibly, incredibly sensitive rides. Mine took a bit of work before I figured him out, but he ended up being a very wonderful horse.

Capote is definitely a line several people here who do resales look for - he is popular with the HJ crowd and has more of that HJ movement they favor.

What is more interesting about your guys pedigree is the line breeding to Seattle Slew. He’s a good horse to see in a pedigree on the premise that I think he produced some very, very rideable horses. They may not be infiltrating the upper echelon of sport but they fill a very important niche, which is the lower level market. SS is bepopulate in eventer pedigrees at the lower levels. His horses are usually trainable and intelligent, but are not always good movers. They typically possess very efficient gallops which make them good for XC.

Beyond that though, I really think your guy’s dam side is more promising for sport. You have Lear Fan, who I always like to see in a pedigree: he can really gallop and passes that on – he has a few horses from what limited horses he covered that showed up in the upper levels of eventing, but also apparently is in a few HJ horses. Lear Fan himself, IMHO, could not have had a better pedigree for long-format eventing. He himself had a bit of Blue Larkspur in him, which contemporary pedigree enthusiasts are just now realizing bids excellent for sport purposes. There’s Nasrullah, who by now we know is a strong, strong source of jumping and soundness. What excites me more is the linebreeding to Lt Stevens. Further back your guy has a lot of important names in the engine room: lots of Teddy (through MULTIPLE sons and daughters), Sir Gallahad, Turn-To/Royal Charger (another coveted line for sport), Sir Gaylord, Dr. Fager…

Personally on pedigree alone I’d suspect him to be a better eventing prospect than hunter, as on paper it doesn’t look like he would have the huntery movement you need – but he could probably do it, as the Dixie Union horses I’ve met seem to be able to dip their toes into any discipline.

Thanks Beowulf. I really enjoy learning about pedigree and this information is fascinating to me. And the part about the expressive eyes - that’s him, and a nice plain bay. His shoulder is really developing with work too.

As for my boy, I don’t expect him to be a world-beater in the hack (my trainer evaluated him as just an above average mover when we looked at him), but I think he is coming along, his jumping form is so far good.

I look forward to continuing with him especially since he has a very pleasant temperament and is just as sweet and chill as the day is long. I’m also looking forward to bringing him to some hunter paces eventually so the “efficient gallop” you described may come in handy.

I agree with Beowulf-- Dixie Union is a real stamper and easy to pick out. Usually bay, white socks, maybe a little star, cute faces. Compact build, well-proportioned with strong hindquarters. They look really athletic and most seem good-minded. I also wouldn’t expect them to be fancy enough moving for top-level sport, but a really fun low to mid-level horse.

Dixie Union’s looks tends to carry, too, his sons at stud continue to stamp the type. Examples: Dixie Chatter , Gone Astray , Grasshopper , High Cotton , and my favorite, Union Rags (probably the 'least Dixie" of the bunch)

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I agree with Beowulf-- Dixie Union is a real stamper and easy to pick out. Usually bay, white socks, maybe a little star, cute faces. Compact build, well-proportioned with strong hindquarters. They look really athletic and most seem good-minded. I also wouldn’t expect them to be fancy enough moving for top-level sport, but a really fun low to mid-level horse.

Dixie Union’s looks tends to carry, too, his sons at stud continue to stamp the type. Examples: Dixie Chatter , Gone Astray , Grasshopper , High Cotton , and my favorite, Union Rags (probably the 'least Dixie" of the bunch)[/QUOTE]

I really like the Gone Astray horses I’ve seen… sadly, they don’t seem to “stray” far enough north to where I am :lol:

I will say that I think DLB and Nijinsky together is a powerful combination for nice moving and good jumping horses…

I am a sucker for the seal brown with white color that Dixie Union stamped so many of his babies with!

Otherwise, I am one of the few people in the world who cringes when I see DLB in a pedigree up close. And for good reason- I’ve had a disproportionate number of them die on me at a young age. But otherwise, I really like the OP’s horse’s breeding on paper. It’s not a surprise he was a quarter of a million dollar yearling (always a good story). He’s out of a classy mare, and I’m a big fan of General Meeting and Lear Fan for anything-- tough horses, but real work horses.

I had a Dixie Union gelding- what a fantastic personality. I would take another in a heartbeat.

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I am a sucker for the seal brown with white color that Dixie Union stamped so many of his babies with!

Otherwise, I am one of the few people in the world who cringes when I see DLB in a pedigree up close. And for good reason- I’ve had a disproportionate number of them die on me at a young age. But otherwise, I really like the OP’s horse’s breeding on paper. It’s not a surprise he was a quarter of a million dollar yearling (always a good story). He’s out of a classy mare, and I’m a big fan of General Meeting and Lear Fan for anything-- tough horses, but real work horses.[/QUOTE]

I think we talked about this in a thread a while ago, I had the same experience. My old boy was one – but I’ve also met a few who have been quite long in the tooth.