Do Corgi crosses always have short legs?

[Canaqua]

DH gave me a couple of those doggy DNA tests for Christmas. I particularly want a clue as to what the, presumably, ACD mix is. I know these tests are not super accurate and mostly for entertainment, but we’re placing bets on what Dale, the ACDish dog, might be.

We call her an ACD mix because her build and personality are 100% ACD, everyone, including vets and dog trainers agree on the ACD piece. But, that’s not all she is.

Her face, coat and nubby tail are very Pembroke Welsh Corgi like. I know a couple of them and they look just like Dale, except for the legs, Dale’s are long…well, propotionate to her height.

Every Corgi mix I see has short legs, is that dominant? If she has long legs can she not be a Corgi mix?

[Pcostx]

I think the tests are accurate, is there evidence to believe they aren’t?

Genetic testing is pretty common today, it’s not voodoo science so I don’t know why the DNA tests for dog breeds would be just for entertainment?

They know the DNA sequence of the individual breeds, all they have to do is test your dog and see what the closest matches are.

[Canaqua]

From what I understand, from reading reviews of these tests from geneticists, dog breeds aren’t all that straightforward to test for. Supposedly, the further back you have to go to find a purebred and the “younger” the purebred breed, the less accurate. Some people get really bizarre results, maybe they just don’t want to accept the reporting “breeding” of their dog ;).

[Miichelle]

We had an opps litter of Corgi/Cocker Spanials and they had “normal” length legs. Maybe not as long as their very leggy dad but not short and stubby like their mom.

[Bacardi1]

The funniest Corgi cross I ever saw was when I was boarding & the barn owner had a Corgi/Rottweiller cross they named “Oopsie” (Rottweiler dad; Corgi mom). Think Rottweiller coloring/head on a Corgi body. Too cute for words.

[Emryss]

@Pcostx;6042590

I think the tests are accurate, is there evidence to believe they aren’t?

Yes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a4CDvK868w :lol:

[Canaqua]

:lol: Poor Pit, he’ll have to learn to accept living life as a Border Collie! Talk about an identity crisis.

The one we have tests for 185 breeds and I made sure that ACD and Border Collie were on the list of those they say they can test for, as that’s what we are pretty sure we have. Should be entertaining! If the Border Collie mix comes back without Border Collie in it, we’ll know it’s BS, as the father is known to be a purebred BC…Mom is a mix. Maybe my BC mix will come back as an American Staffordshire Terrier!

[2ndyrgal]

who cares.

Really. If it’s not for breeding, and never met it’s daddy, then what possible difference could it make what it is?

[bits619]

Well, why not?? Is simple curiosity so bad?

I have two poodle mixes (among the rest of the dogs). The first one is 30 lbs, wavy to curly hair that sheds mildly and is graying out all over his body over the past 4,5 years. Tail curls over his back. He’s a total spare parts dog. Bow legged in the back, built downhill, wide sprung ribcage that bobbles left and right. He’s just so funny looking. Trim his muzzle short, ears long and he could pass for a really ugly poodle. But good lord, what else is hiding in there?? It’d be fun to have something to compare our speculation against.

The other poodle mix is almost certainly mixed with schnauzer. She’s simply a poodle-clothed schnauzer… In body shape, temperament, god-awful bark we call the first one a poodle schnauzer mix but it’s just our guess, and there’s got to be that pesky lil something else making him shed.

To the OP, I’m not sure. I’ve seen mixed heights in some litters but the exact parentage hasn’t been known. We had two foster pups from the same litter. Chocolate lab mixes but one had long legs and the other was a total low rider. But its entirely possible the mom was the lab and there were two dads, one of them being a corgi (they were found in a ditch). So I’m no help there, lol!

Show us some pics so we can join in the fun… And keep us posted on the results!

[wendy]

I think the tests are accurate, is there evidence to believe they aren’t?

they are quite accurate if your dog happens to be a cross between two purebreds, or one purebred and one mutt. If not (and many mixed-breeds have no purebreds in there anywhere period), then you can get useless results from the DNA tests.
You can also get errors if the lab mixes up samples and contaminates samples, so going with the cheapest/fastest one may be a mistake.

For non-entertainment purposes, if you know your dog’s father is breed A, and breed A has a tendency to have Health Problem B, you might want to watch out for Health Problem B.

Corgis, as far as I know, it’s a dominant gene that is homozygous in the corgi population so yes, you’d expect that a corgi-mix dog will have dwarfed legs. I have seen some cattle dog mixes that strongly reminded one of a longer-legged corgi, for some reason.

[Canaqua]

[QUOTE=2ndyrgal;6044748]
Really. If it’s not for breeding, and never met it’s daddy, then what possible difference could it make what it is?[/QUOTE]

It doesn’t make any difference, both dogs are spayed and we love them both, so nothing will change if we get a clue as to what mix they are. Curiosity? Many of us “mixed breed” people are interested in knowing what mix of ethnicities and nationalities we are! It’s fun to speculate on why you look the way you do…it’s no different for dogs. And, with dogs, since they are bred for specific purposes, we might gain some insight into their personalities. We know for sure they are both primarily herders, the behavior is unmistakable, but what else is in there?

And, as Wendy says, it could be relevant for the BC mix. Dad is presumed to be a purebred BC, but there is no proof of it, mom is a mutt…she looks like she might be a BC/husky mix. If 3 out of 4 grandparents are really BCs, we might want to keep an eye out for health problems that occur in Border Collies.

I suspect we might not get much of an answer on the ACD mix, except that she has a good chunk of ACD in her. But if the assumptions about the BC mixes parents are correct, they should be confirmable.

When I get the results back in a couple of weeks, I’ll post them, plus decent pictures of both dogs, to see how accurate people think the tests were.

[ohrebecca]

I always thought my old dog Molly was corgi x shep mix, but who knows. She was short, but not Corgi Short. Her face/ears were what looked corgi-esque.

There was a dog at an indie bookshop who was husky x corgi - husky coloring on a corgi-sized dog! Super cute Also saw a corgi x yellow lab at the cider mill once - same thing (yellow lab looks with stubby legs)

have fun with the DNA tests! I’ve thought about doing that with my current dog, who is presumably a pit bull (mix? maybe? who knows).

[didgery]

Sorry if I’m hijacking . . .

I’ve considered DNA testing my chihuahua, as I’m pretty convinced she’s 1/4 or 1/2 miniature pinscher. She was a stray, so who knows? She weighs 11 pounds and has a longer face and more athletic build than your average chi.

Do you guys think a DNA test would give me useful information? It would just be for kicks, of course.

[MsM]

I dont know if any of these companies (or anyone) really has enough reliable data to determine doggy breed ancestry.
They would have to know what, genetically, separates a Border terrier, from a Cairn, from a Norfolk, etc etc. I wonder if there is even anything unique enough to identify many breeds once you get to grandparents and beyond.
I only know of one person who sent in her dogs DNA for analysis. The results were bizzarre though and didnt include the known (to owners, not company) breed heritage! I imagine some companies do a better job than others.

[irkenequine]

For what its worth I’ve never seen a legitimate result from those DNA tests, from two separate companies. Even purebred to purebred can produce some weird results; I am not sure exactly how they are run. I gather, they’ve tested a ton of purebreds to create a “if ABC= Boxer, if BAC=Lab” type database and then there’s just guesswork with the markers. So what you end up with is not “a purebred grandfather boxer mated with a purebred lab and that result mated with a purebred boston terrier” but just the essence of many many breeds over time as has been said. As a shelter adoption counselor people used to bring the tests results back as a laugh. What I found the funniest were tests that did not carry Pit Bull/Staffie Terrier on a dog that was obviously a pit mix…the results were hilarious.

Black puppy, mom on site as a pit bull, dad confirmed black lab. Breeding: Newfoundland, Rhodesian Ridgeback, PAPILLON.

Purebred boxer: Boxer, German Shepherd.

White and black bully type puppy, mom was a registered staffie, dad unknown: Doberman Pinscher, Golden Retriever, Boston Terrier.

Brindle momma ‘bully mix’…looked very staffie: Boxer, Dalmatian.

I think you’re better off showing pictures to a lot of breed knowledgeable people for kicks than sending the tests off.

[tallyho392]

i have a barn friend with a jrt/corgi cross…looks just like a corgi with long legs!..funniest,happiest dog

[MunchingonHay]

I have a friend who’s dog is clearly lab pittie cross, and she is a yellow/white color.

DNA test came back as Dobbie, Newfoundland, MinPin, and Maltese.!!!

We laughed so hard when the test came back. I told her the next time she wanted to throw away 100 bucks on DNA testing, just give the money to me and I will take a guess :lol::lol: