“Do you only ride horses?” And other sexual harassment

I have ridden and owned horses on and off since I was 5. I have “fielded” questions and comments that allude to my sexual prowess, my sexual behaviors, and such for 35+ years. All of this is nonsense. I am shocked that at my age I still get innuendo and I still get weird assumptions that I am a Domininatrix or I “like” Spurs and whips or I am anything other than a bad ass bitch. That my ability to sit the trot or follow a canter is implying anything other than I know how to ride a horse.

This is from mostly non-horsey people but also from horsey people. It is dumb. Pros get it too.

Honest question: how do you deflect these questions? How do you deal with the HR ramifications? How do we do better?

I am, honestly, exhausted.

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So have these questions happened at work?

Personally I would simply look at the person, say what a childish question / statement.

If they say I cannot take a joke or get a sense of humor… I feel no hesitation in saying I do have a sense of humor and this childish talk isnt .

If it persists I would address it , in writing, that their comments and observations are unwelcome. I would put , in writing, what the wording is that you find offensive.

if it persists it is an HR issue

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I have, on occasion, sent a picture of my geldings ‘endowment’ when I received an unwelcome picture from a male. That always tends to shut them up real fast. Side effect is they will never talk to you again. Your results may vary.

I usually act as though I have absolutely no idea what they are talking about when they insinuate something sexual with riding. I’ll give them a questioning look, and they either are forced to explain their horrible joke (they won’t) or they will move on, embarrassed that I didn’t understand them and they will never say anything of the sort again.
Luckily I’m in a part of the country that you would have a hard time finding someone who didn’t have a family member or friend who rides horses, so these types of ‘jokes’ are not very common.

If it’s happening at work that’s sexual harassment and I’d point that out to them.

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This happens much less now that I’m in my 30s but in my 20s I lost track of the number of times some random guy harassed me about riding him when I was running into the grocery store or gas station in riding attire. It was horrible and made me so self-conscious about running errands on my way back from the barn.

It has never happened to me in a professional context though and I would be beyond mortified if it did. Definitely take it to HR.

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This. Or, just a blank, deadpan stare. And then walk away.

Don’t feed stupid trolls.

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I agree with @StormyDay [not about sending the pictures, but the rest] .

After teaching high school (Sr. Lit) for 40+ years --retired now, I have had lots of practice with inappropriate comments and innuendo from both boys and girls -and the occasional colleague.

The comment or statement is made by the “child,” --I respond with a confused, perplexed expression and the “not sure I understand,” response of some kind, and move on or away. I HAVE had students (not usually the one making the remark) stop by and try to explain the ruffian’s meaning --“Miss, David was saying that riding horses was . . .” —but I just sigh and stop the informer with, “I understand, and I’m sorry that David can only communicate on such a level.” Then the informer and I shake our heads and move on to other conversation. Discussing one student with another was something I never did.

I suppose I may be naïve (or was then --retired now), but I thought of student/colleague inappropriate remarks as based on failure of the parent to teach the child how to communicate with adults. MANY of my students came from one parent homes --and for some I was the only adult female he/she talked with in an entire day. Perhaps the student was mimicking a remark he/she’d heard a parent make to someone and get a laugh --I saw it as my job to educate the student or adult in the proper way to speak to a teacher or other adult.

If the student/colleague persisted in making inappropriate remarks, I found time to speak with him/her privately (although never alone --stopped meeting with anyone alone early in my career --always private, but in view of someone else) --and said, “Your comments make me uncomfortable. Do you understand why?” —never ONCE did anyone say, “Gosh, no, Miss, can you explain?” --anyway --that’s what worked for me.

On RARE occasions --usually when the inappropriate student had inflicted his or her comments again OR toward another student, I called home (not possible with an adult) and asked the dad or mom or whomever the student lived with to explain why such remarks were uncomfortable in a classroom taught by an old lady. That solved the problem so well, that eventually (same school for 40 years) word got around that, “Hey, watch yourself in Mrs. Foxglove’s class --she calls parents.”

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This is what I was going to suggest. Say “I don’t get it, what’s the joke?”

I use that for anything sexist as well.

Only one time did I have to tell someone off because there he went, explaining his comment in full detail (did not have to do with horses). I told him, just he and I present, that he will NEVER speak to me that way again, or I’ll have him gone in a new york minute. It has never happened again.

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Well, if you’re feeling mean and cranky, you can answer “Yes, I only ride horses. Not interested in riding ponies. Or mules.” with a significant glance.

Other than that, follow all the excellent advice you’ve been given above.

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Years ago a female vet I know, working on the track (a place not necessarily known for enlightenment) was rummaging in her truck for something when a group of men started talking “innuendo”, for lack of a better term. She turned from the truck with an emasculator in her hand and sweetly said. “Yes?”. They melted into the stables.

Maybe we should all carry them?

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I’ve had a couple of people make stupid jokes. I give them a deadpan look and ask " you don’t ride, do you?" When they answer no, I reply ,"" hmm. Didn’t think so" and walked away.
They didn’t make a comment again

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If someone asked me “Do you only ride horses?” I would ask them if they know what a misplaced modifier is.

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Blank stare, no verbal response needed. I’d say, don’t engage at all with the comments or the person who made them.

If it happens at work (especially more than once), then go to your supervisor and/or HR. Not okay for this to happen at work.

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I usually take their statement at face value, ramble about horses for a bit, and make them feel silly for making it a sexual innuendo:

“you must really like the whips and spurs?”
“actually the spur is a very refined aid so i dont ride in them, i do use a whip but only as a training aid to reinforce my leg, horses are very sensitive animals and can be ridden off of subtle body language, i think non-horse people sometimes dont know that”

“is that the only thing you ride?”
“yeah, there’s actually not many animals that can carry the weight of a human, horses have support structures in their skeletal system thats different from other 4 legged animals like deer, and actually even elephants despite being big aren’t as well structure to carry weight on their backs”

…another strategy ive heard but havent used is to ask them directly what they mean by the comment, because a normal person will sheepishly go “oh nevermind”, but im too much of a wimp to try.

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I have heard that and much worse. There was a young girl at my previous barn - think 13/14 kind of young - who said boys at school implied she enjoyed horses for more than riding. If you catch my drift. I felt horrified for her because I don’t like hearing it and I’m twice her age.

My favorite thing to say to those people - or anyone who says something sexist/racist/what have you - is “oh, did you mean to say that out loud?” That always works. I do also love the “explain your joke to me” trick as well.

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This is it exactly. I have always been able to ignore the crude and idiotic people ( men for me) who think this is somehow a topic of conversation worth my time.

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While I’ve somehow escaped schmucks commenting on riding, my go to for handling sexist “jokes” is raised eyebrows & “A joke? Interesting. Jokes are supposed to be funny.”

Back when I did online dating I stopped making any mention of being a jiu jitsu player because 99/100 I got: a) comments about wanting me to choke them out b) men who were genuinely psycho pissed off about it. Some even threatened me.

Idk. I like men in the sense that I’m heterosexual. And I do have male friends whose company I enjoy. I don’t really like men anymore, though.

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I always respond with “Oh honey, I break boys like you. You could not handle me”, and walk away.

It never fails to totally shut them down.

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My aunt once asked me if I got turned on by riding!? My freaking aunt! I think I was about 14 at the time.

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:astonished:

Please tell me you responded with something just as inappropriate?!

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I was floored. I think I stared at her with my mouth open.

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