Does anyone drive a two horse gooseneck with a tundra?

it seems that there are many happy tundra owners that pull a bumper… but what about a gooseneck?

TIA

I was window-shopping Carmax the other day and saw the Tundra 8cyl is only rated for 6200#.
I don’t feel that is sufficient to pull a 2H BP, let alone the extra length/weight of a GN.

5.7 V-8

I really thought the larger V-8 engine was up to towing 10k. that is why i am shopping tundras.

thanks

Some bumper pulls are heavier than some of the goosenecks out there. Other than where the trailer hitches and the difference in weight distribution, a 1/2 ton pickup might have an easier time hauling a gooseneck depending on it’s weight. The hitch location actually distributes the weight better for hauling with a gooseneck anyways.

Speaking from experience, it would probably trash the rear suspension. Check the GVWR to see how much weight it can take in the bed. But even with airbags on a half ton’s rear suspension, it did NOT feel good and stopping in a big hurry, especially in the rain, was out of the question (I did not own this rig, just had the misfortune to drive it once). This was an older 2H gooseneck with a DR that had been converted to a very small LQ.

Do remember when looking at tow ratings that there is a lot more too it than “this is how much weight we engineered it to pull.” Pull. Not handle, stabilize, stop, remove from emergency situation, hold onto the road, etc.

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I really thought the larger V-8 engine was up to towing 10k. that is why i am shopping tundras.

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Per our manual our 5.7 V8 is rated up to about 9500, I believe. (My husband didn’t believe me and checked it the other day.) I feel fine towing my little bumper pull with it, usually with one horse, around town… not sure how I’d feel if I were hauling a much bigger trailer with an extra horse or two.

I haul 2 TBs in a gooseneck stock trailer with a 2007 Tundra. I love that truck. Feels plenty secure to me, but I am a fair-weather, short-haul kind o’ gal. I don’t know that I’d want to go over the mountains and through serious weather with it.

he Tundra is the best towing vehicle we have ever had! We pull a two, extra long,gooseneck…and have shipped three horses in it and it pulls effortlessly. We got the “towing package” and have had no troubles ever. It pulls better than our Chevy Silverado did and people who use a Ford for their trailers are really impressed when they ride in our rig!

A tundra can pull up to a three horse goose.

Not me, but someone at my barn has a Hawk 2H Gooseneck and pulls it with a Tundra and loves the whole rig.

I have a 5.7L Tundra with 4 wheel drive and a towing package and pull a Featherlite 2H GN. The truck handles the trailer well, including up and down hills in Western NY and Pa. That said, I generally haul only one horse at a time, if I routinely hauled both my horses I’d probably consider stepping up to a bigger truck as both my guys are pretty big at ~1,200-1,300 lbs. When shopping for my trailer I focused on all aluminum to keep the weight down. You’ll find that the limiting factor is the tongue weight of the GN and the payload of the truck as a GN puts more of the weight if the trailer on the truck. My truck pulls the trailer fine and is very stable on the road, no sway from passing semis. Pay attention to the specs of the truck and all your weights as you sort through your options.

Interesting. My first thought was “sure, it can pull it, but I wouldn’t want to try to stop quickly with it”. But looking at specs, the wheel base on 2 of the models is 145", which is well above what I think is the minimum acceptable (115? 120?).

How do you guys feel about more urgent stops with your Tundra? Which model do you have?

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TUNDRA SPECS; http://www.toyota.com/tundra/features.html#!/weights_capacities/8202/8215/8259

Towing capacity on a 2013 Tundra Double Cab4x4 Tundra Long Bed 5.7L V8 FFV ** 6-Speed =9800 lbs

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TUNDRA SPECS; http://www.toyota.com/tundra/features.html#!/weights_capacities/8202/8215/8259

Towing capacity on a 2013 Tundra Double Cab4x4 Tundra Long Bed 5.7L V8 FFV ** 6-Speed =9800 lbs[/QUOTE]

But you can only put 1360 lbs of payload in the bed.

Subtract say, 360 lbs for 2 people (arbitrary), that puts you at 1000 lbs for any other crap you put in the truck PLUS the weight of the gooseneck.

If you take the average of 25% of the trailer’s weight being on the hitch, then a 9800 lb gooseneck would put 2450 lbs in the bed. That’s almost DOUBLE the entire payload, so even if you get out and run next to the truck, it’s not going to meet spec.

If your gooseneck is adjusted correctly, the weight you put in the bed is definitely not that much. The weight of the trailer and occupants is carried on the trailer’s wheels.

Do your homework and check out the tongue weight of the trailer as the payload will be the limiting factor. Before I bought my FL 2H GN (I tow with a 5.7L V8 Regular Cab Tundra) I spoke with engineers at the FL factory to understand the tongue weight. The % of total weight of the trailer that is “in” the truck varies depending on the load. When the trailer is empty a higher % of the total weight is on the truck than when the trailer is loaded (at least for my trailer) – due to the placement of the wheels and the fact that the trailer axles are placed about where the center of gravity is for the horses in the trailer. It is important to get as light a GN as you can and be very aware of weight and weight distribution. I’m careful not to load up my truck with extra people or gear when hauling. I also have heavy duty tires on my truck. With the trailer hitched up and a horse in the trailer the truck does not “sag” onto the rear wheels but rides level. I also am careful to have both truck and trailer checked out and inspected annually – with particular attention to transmission, suspension, brakes and wheel bearings for the trailer. My Tundra does a super job and the rig is very stable on the highway.

I don’t see a long bed option on the Toyota website and it is better to have a long bed for a GN. The long bed option provides more clearance to your cab for sharp turns, more stability because of a longer wheel base, etc, etc.

Is a Tundra significantly cheaper than a 3/4 ton Dodge, Ford or Chevy? Why not just go with a bigger truck?

I was able to start a build of a double cab and there was indeed a long bed option. I don’t know if maybe it’s not an option on the other cabs.

A Tundra double cab starts at about $27k. A Ford F250 starts at about $30k. By the time you make that 250 a crew cab (double cab) the base XL is up to almost $34k. I can’t get far enough with a Tundra to get a price on adding a long bed to the double cab as it wants me to give my contact info and I’m not going there :slight_smile:

I don’t have a Tundra- but would like to - aren’t they shown in commercials pulling the space shuttle or something like that? Anway I tow my 2H GN straight load Hawk with a Nissan Titan - been doing it since '06, went all the way to Montana and and over the continental divide and back, with one horse in it and have had zero problems. The reason I chose the Titan (the heavy duty Tundra was not yet available when I was shopping) is for their reliability and also the fact they run cleaner, less pollution, so they are more environmentally friendly.
We have two Hondas and the Nissan truck and they virtually NEVER EVER break down. All we do is change the oil and get new tires.