Dog attack at Saugerties

There were slightly different versions on the Facebook post. One person said the big dog was tied to a golf cart on a long leash, another person said the big dog was not tied. Apparently the big dog also bit an adult who tried to pull him off the little girl and her puppy. Several people said the big dog has a biting history at previous shows.

At the very least, that big dog should never attend another horse show.

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Wonder how some trainers keep any clients willing to entrust their horses with them… Or work with their kids.

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If the dog was a Cane Corso, read up on the breed, it’s not necessarily a dog I’d want to own. One of my former neighbors had one. Rarely put her on leash despite the fact that we have leash laws. While she never showed aggression towards my dog, my dog avoided her - when we’d leave my house for a walk, my dog would look towards the Cane’s house and if she was outside, mine would run back to my door. LOL. I trusted her instinct so we’d wait until Cane was back inside. This is a bit from a quick google. I don’t want to be anti-breed but certainly if one has one of the guard type dogs they need to be much more vigilant with them in public areas. One of my friends has a JR who loves to prove he’s a tough guy with other dogs. Whenever they’re out walking she’s always telling people to keep their dogs away from him as he’s liable to start something. As with all mastiffs, socialization is an absolute requirement to promote the correct temperament, which should be protective in a calm and discriminating way. Unfortunately, an awful lot of people are breeding or raising these dogs in irresponsible ways and the result is an awful lot of Cane Corsos with unstable or aggressive temperaments that can be dangerous to innocent people. Though the Cane Corso was not used for dog-fighting, dog aggression (often very serious) can still be a problem. He should be thoroughly socialized with other dogs from an early age. I wouldn’t keep a Cane Corso with another large dog of the same sex.

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How about banning irresponsible dog owners from taking their dogs to shows? If there is two or more instances where a dog shows dangerous behavior shouldn’t the owner be responsible enough to just leave the dog at home?

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i’ve personally witnessed this same dog jump out of it’s ATV/4 wheel thingy and attack other dogs that were tied and laying outside their golf carts. There are two so I honestly can’t say which is which but that is irrelevant. They are not friendly, and there have been enough incidents that she should know better. It takes less than common sense to figure out they can’t be around other dogs. they seem to be territorial about their atv so someone or some dog walking by is in danger.

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I have to say that I saw plenty of loose dogs at Devon this week, even after we were discussing this unfortunate incident at Hits last week. One girl did keep her dog tied up part of the time, and there were other dogs that were tied up or in pens all the time when I saw them. But there were still plenty of loose dogs.

I am SO ready for dogs to be banned at horse shows. There is simply no reason for it.

Leashes and locking dogs in stalls is not a solution. A couple of weeks ago I was at a show and the people stabled across the aisle from us had dogs tied to the posts outside the stall. Every time a horse went by they would dash out into the aisle, dragging their ties across and blocking it. It would have been so easy for a horse to get tangled up in the tie ropes if a horse had spooked forward to exit the aisle. After several people lodged complaints, they locked the dogs in a stall and left them…whereby the dogs barked and cried constantly–a total nuisance. For that one trainer’s convenience of bringing her dogs, many people had an unpleasant, potentially dangerous experience.

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Just an update. A very thoughtful person tracked down a litter mate of the puppy, and gave her to the family in question. The little girl looked very happy about her new friend. :slight_smile:

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Unless the owner of this dog is willing to attend shows without the animals, her entries should be refused. I would think that aggressive behavior of this sort and unwillingness to prevent it would come under the heading of ā€œunsportsmanlike conduct.ā€

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I agree in theory. In practice, I don’t know if there is a specific enough rule in place that could be applied.

If anything, I believe many rules are designed to make sure that horse shows must be open to all members in good standing, to prevent anyone from running their own ā€œprivateā€Ā horse shows to pile up points.

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Would this cover it?

ā€œGR914 Refusal of Entries 1. In addition to entries of persons suspended or expelled from the Federation, a Licensed Competition may refuse any entry of an exhibitor or the participation of any agent, trainer, rider, driver or handler who has shown an objectionable attitude or behavior at a Licensed Competition or towards its management, which management is able to substantiate, or previous unsportsmanlike behavior at a Licensed Competition which management is able to substantiate.ā€

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It seems like it should. But again, ā€œunsportsmanlike behaviorā€Ā is a bit vague. Plus it would require a show manager who is prepared to turn away those entry fees. And stall fees. And office fees. Etc., etc.

Well, yes, it would require a manager who was concerned about conditions. And those appear to be an endangered species.

Still, if the owners of one or two aggressive/problem dogs were banned, I could foresee a couple possible positive consequences:

  1. people without aggressive dogs wold be happier.
    2)people with potentially problematic dogs might think twice about either bringing them, or–gasp–keeping them under control.
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Yes, all of this.
Dogs do not belong at horse shows.

@Can’tFindMyWhip breed bans are absurd. There are aggressive and non-aggressive specimens in every breed, including your beloved Greyhounds. I’ve personally known two very aggressive Greyhounds, out of the whole four greys I’ve met in my lifetime.

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Completely agree that a breed ban would be pointless. Problem dogs at shows far more are a reflection of the owners careless and selfish decisions than they are a reflection of any breed. And most of the MANY dangerous dog incidents I have witnessed were not the result of aggression. Instead they were the result of dogs not habituated to horses, badly behaved or poorly controlled leashed dogs, or a wide variety of loose dogs.

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Breed bans?! Seriously? What we have here is a behavior problem, a training problem, and quite obviously an owner problem. Breed bans are unjust: punishing dogs for the actions of irresponsible owners.

Food for thought: You are more likely to get bitten by a chihuahua than any other breed. I’ve never seen chis banned anywhere.

Dogs should be on a 6’ leash or left at home. Simple as that.

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That may be true. But I’ve never heard of anyone being killed by a nasty chihuahua.

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If we could figure out the breed of the owner, that might be a breed ban worth enforcing.

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Lynn Reed is the owner. Apparently this is not the first time her dogs have killed another animal. 2017 had some incidents as well, which would indicate a different dog (same breed). I don’t get it, why do some people seem to have carte blanche to do whatever they feel like.

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Ugh. All I can think of is Dianne Whipple. My trainer never takes her dogs to a show and wasn’t willing to let me bring my dog to the farm. There is just too much that can go wrong.

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