I cannot fathom a lawyer who is a supposed horsewomen defending JB. I really can’t fathom this entire thing. 
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I cannot fathom a lawyer who is a supposed horsewomen defending JB. I really can’t fathom this entire thing. :([/QUOTE]
My thoughts precisely. I hope they rot in hell together.
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Here’s Devil’s Sis’s foal from last year, if it is actually last year. The little bit of the mare you can see in the picture doesn’t look bad, so this decline has been since then.
http://www.grayfoxfarms.com/radiant.htm[/QUOTE]
So she foaled July 6th 2012 and is due June 22, 2013? Guess fertility isn’t an issue. Poor mare.
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Again. There are 34 mares listed on the website that is still available. WHERE are all the horses? I will continue to ask this question if anyone wants to check the website. Google Grey Fox Farm Jill Burnell! Where are all the horses?[/QUOTE]
First, there is absolutely nothing to say that the website is accurate… rather the opposite. How many people have said that such and such mare has never left their care and gone to JB. So the number you state is probably not accurate. Articles have mentioned more than 2 dozens horses… 4 seized… The rest are still at the farm under supervision by MHS.
I don’t see where your problem is!
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I cannot fathom a lawyer who is a supposed horsewomen defending JB. I really can’t fathom this entire thing. :([/QUOTE]
lol a lawyer, yes…
but a vet??? Please local people, note the name and the clinic and steer far far away!
Dr. Cheryl Ellis received both her Bachelor’s degree and DVM degree from the University of California at Davis, CA. Her professional interests include emergency stabilization and care of the equine patient, equine technical rescue and disaster preparedness and response involving equines. She is the California Veterinary Medical Association’s Disaster Coordinator for El Dorado County. Dr. Ellis also enjoys traveling to Central and South America as a member of HSVMA-FS (Humane Society Veterinary Medical Association – Field Service Division) where she volunteers her time helping care for horses in impoverished areas. Her personal interests include riding her endurance mules and helping her daughter with her Sport Pony breeding program.
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Again. There are 34 mares listed on the website that is still available. WHERE are all the horses? I will continue to ask this question if anyone wants to check the website. Google Grey Fox Farm Jill Burnell! Where are all the horses?[/QUOTE]
As far as we have all been able to gather, 1 stallion and 3 mares are in the care of Marin County Humane Society elsewhere. The rest of unknown number of horses are on JB’s farm, or if not on that particular piece of propery have been farmed out to a variety of places with her supporters (hopefully a dwindling number of). Hopefully with the judge ruling, now twice, in favour of MCHS, it will open the door for the removal and rehoming of the rest of the horses, whether or not they are in as serious condition.
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Is there any validation/report/link about 10 days to get the property up to code? That probably has more bearing on the final disposition of the horses than anything MHS can/will do.[/QUOTE]
Dated January 9:
http://www.ratemyhorsepro.com/news/court-denies-burnells-petition-new-issues-arise.aspx
"Burnell may also need a new place to live. Marin County’s code enforcement department notified her this week that she has 10 days to respond to a notice regarding her property’s code violations. The letter states that living in a trailer on the land and the storage of junk are violations of Marin County Codes Section(s) 22.08.030 and 7.52.020.
In order to correct the violations, a code enforcement official says the junk and camper trailer Burnell and her husband are currently living in must go. To make the property suitable for living, the housing, septic, and water must be approved. The property does have a source of running water, which is being investigated, since water isn’t approved according to the official. If they don’t correct the violations, they could be fined $5000 a day plus costs."
I am glad that JB has an attorney that is working on her behalf. I much prefer that to people who are convicted and then claim “inadequate representation” and then are allowed to go free or are retried for the offense, which would be unlikely due to the costs.
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So she foaled July 6th 2012 and is due June 22, 2013? Guess fertility isn’t an issue. Poor mare.[/QUOTE]
After googling the mare name Devil Sis, 2001 TB, Chronicle forums show she was leased from Genevieve at Glen Hill Farm to Spacely for a foal in 2006. Somehow she ended up with Jill Burnell at Gray Fox Farm. I wonder if these people still doing business with Gray Fox Farm or interested in what happened to her. They called her Abby not Pookie.
What that woman has done is despicable and her vet should be totally ashamed of herself.
I would be willing to bet that “her vet” has never once laid eyes on any of the horses or at least not within the last 6 months or so.
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First, there is absolutely nothing to say that the website is accurate… rather the opposite. How many people have said that such and such mare has never left their care and gone to JB. So the number you state is probably not accurate. Articles have mentioned more than 2 dozens horses… 4 seized… The rest are still at the farm under supervision by MHS.
I don’t see where your problem is![/QUOTE]
Again a misread of my concern. How quick to judge! Many have said MHS has seized only 4 horses. I suspect there are many more that need rescue thus the auction is most likely helping many more ultimately than 4 horses. So FalseImpression? Chill
HORRIFIED
:no:I just saw a post over on Facebook about the condition of Jill Burnell and the horses on her farm and was HORRIFIED. I will have to spend some time looking over this thread but was horrified and so sad for the poor horses. It breaks my heart. How can anyone who professes to love animals treat horses like this?
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sorry double post
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No, not if you were reading for comprehension.
The funniest (not hah hah funny) thing about this is I could be at best considered the furthest thing from a supporter of JB and her blingy black stallions. They are seriously not my cup of tea* and never have been, and yet even I have to look at some of the stuff posted on this thread and shake my head in bemused wonder. Other posters coughcoughcertainbreederscoughcough are totally ruining my own long anticipated schaudenfreude with their own brand of crazy.
I do feel a bit sorry for MHS since they are a) doing their job as best as they can and b) no doubt reading this thread as evidenced by today’s flurry of updates but are c) completely (blissfully) clueless to the undercurrents of agendas and krazee, posters, their alters and mini-minions. That knowledge can only come from over a decade of watching this board (up front and behind the scenes) through the oldenburg wars and the great forum shutdown (and ensuing hysteria) to today.
*possibly the most tactful statement I have ever made.[/QUOTE]
Most of the people who have answered you posts replied you say "not read withwith comphension’. I guess I go into your stupid list.
You write very techicnally and with force. Enough to blast me off this this thread.
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After googling the mare name Devil Sis, 2001 TB, Chronicle forums show she was leased from Genevieve at Glen Hill Farm to Spacely for a foal in 2006. Somehow she ended up with Jill Burnell at Gray Fox Farm. I wonder if these people still doing business with Gray Fox Farm or interested in what happened to her. They called her Abby not Pookie.[/QUOTE]
Looks like she had a 2006 foal for JB - “Plot Twist”. http://grayfoxfarms.com/foals2006.htm
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Again a misread of my concern. How quick to judge! Many have said MHS has seized only 4 horses. I suspect there are many more that need rescue thus the auction is most likely helping many more ultimately than 4 horses. So FalseImpression? Chill[/QUOTE]
I am chilling, but stop asking us questions we do NOT have the answers to! Ask MHS… Of course, we are all hoping other horses will be helped… but I am sure they already are… do you really think JB is feeding them properly now?
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Dr. Cheryl Ellis received both her Bachelor’s degree and DVM degree from the University of California at Davis, CA. Her professional interests include emergency stabilization and care of the equine patient, equine technical rescue and disaster preparedness and response involving equines. She is the California Veterinary Medical Association’s Disaster Coordinator for El Dorado County. Dr. Ellis also enjoys traveling to Central and South America as a member of HSVMA-FS (Humane Society Veterinary Medical Association – Field Service Division) where she volunteers her time helping care for horses in impoverished areas. Her personal interests include riding her endurance mules and helping her daughter with her Sport Pony breeding program.[/QUOTE]
If Samantha Ellis is her daughter, there is a JB connection, she bred one of her mares to redwine a couple years ago. I believe she is a regular here on COTH.
MHS from all impressions thus far seems very competent and on top of the situation. I’m sure they’re working hard to make sure all I’s are dotted and T’s crossed to ensure JB and attorney don’t have any case to get these horses back. They’re the professionals. They know what they’re doing. We don’t need all the details…especially on a public message board that JB has access to. The best thing to do now is to provide support via the auction and let MHS do their thing. Without distraction. Everything will come out in the end. Hopefully after JB has not one horse left to her name (or those she “transferred” ownership to, if that is the case).
